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Hi, guys... generally i just pop in... give my thought on peoples builds but I actually have something for you guys and is not been addressed I do not think...
I just had my 3M clear bra installed on my M3... but installed many on 997's, Cayenne Turbo, and CS.... I have not seen my car yet but I know what to expect....
This is what you guys should expect, because I was very suprised to hear of a customer who got a clear bra and was not happy with the outcome...
It has too be understood that and especially on the CS along with other cars the contours of the vehicle make installs unique to each model... obviously...
on the CS since that is what is most important on this site...
Under the headlights due to the contour of the bumper some stretching can occur...
Not all installs are the same and some are better than others...
If you are looking for a 10/10 show car.... a clear bra is not for you... it was not designed for that application.... the reason to get the clear bra is not to have all the rock chips that accumulate on the nose, hood, fenders, mirrors...
If you park your car in your garage and stare at in under florence lights you will see many different things... as most ladies know from dressing rooms...
it is meant to be seen in the light.... and really from 3-5 feet will not be noticeable... but within a foot or 2 you can see the lines from the angles and within a foot can see marks and etc...
Now I will say this particular 3M install was done great imo and when it left it was the 3rd CS done within a two week period and looked the best out of the bunch and I never thought it would not be satisfactory since I signed off on it... I was extremely happy b/c of the customer who ordered this very special car... it was not just a lot CS that some schmo bought on a wim b/c of a girl he was trying to impress or something... this was for a real Porschephile...
I just feel bad when people are not satisfied b/c they feel it is not what they bought when actually the reason to have a 3m Clear bra is to keep this 21st century non-lead paint to stick to these beautiful cars....
You can't have it both ways guys.... you either protect the paint by covering it and having some visible lines from some angles... or you don't and over time take wear and tear....
For me after not having a clear bra before and seeing vehicles with 30k miles I will always have a Clear bra on every car I own from here on out... the benifits on the resale is very high....b/c you can remove the clear bra... have a nice detail and have a showroom paint for the next owner... or leave the clear bra for those that understand the benifit....
But it is a choice and with life their are pro's and con's....
Trade off between the price of living with the damage until the cost of re-painting or living with the almost invisible bra is the issue that you identify. I'm in the protection camp myself.
I totally agree... especailly since I think non OEM paint has not done nearly as well on my car since i had some paint work.... plus paint work hurts the value... funny??? get it painted and looking great and you get hammered anyway...
I had a clear bra installed on my CS and I wouldn't have another car without!
I'm anal when it comes to my cars and I was concerned about the LINE, with the Meteor gray, you can hardly see it. My install was perfect, it took the installer all day, it was his first Cayman S and he wanted to be particular, I appreciated that! Go for it and don't look back.
I'm in the "had two cars done, quit doing it" camp. I can't argue that it protects the OEM paint, but I just don't like the way it looks, and it DOES looks worse over time as it does its job of absorbing damage.
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Scott
2006 Cayman S
2008 MINI S
no you are better off to have the clear bra if you do not clean it all the time... the bug marks will eat into your paint....... the clear bra can be treated just like paint.... you can wax it.... clean it to keep it from being marked....
over the last couple of years the products have become much better with much less orange peel visible.
Hi, guys... generally i just pop in... give my thought on peoples builds but I actually have something for you guys and is not been addressed I do not think...
I just had my 3M clear bra installed on my M3... but installed many on 997's, Cayenne Turbo, and CS.... I have not seen my car yet but I know what to expect....
This is what you guys should expect, because I was very suprised to hear of a customer who got a clear bra and was not happy with the outcome...
It has too be understood that and especially on the CS along with other cars the contours of the vehicle make installs unique to each model... obviously...
on the CS since that is what is most important on this site...
Under the headlights due to the contour of the bumper some stretching can occur...
Not all installs are the same and some are better than others...
If you are looking for a 10/10 show car.... a clear bra is not for you... it was not designed for that application.... the reason to get the clear bra is not to have all the rock chips that accumulate on the nose, hood, fenders, mirrors...
If you park your car in your garage and stare at in under florence lights you will see many different things... as most ladies know from dressing rooms...
it is meant to be seen in the light.... and really from 3-5 feet will not be noticeable... but within a foot or 2 you can see the lines from the angles and within a foot can see marks and etc...
Now I will say this particular 3M install was done great imo and when it left it was the 3rd CS done within a two week period and looked the best out of the bunch and I never thought it would not be satisfactory since I signed off on it... I was extremely happy b/c of the customer who ordered this very special car... it was not just a lot CS that some schmo bought on a wim b/c of a girl he was trying to impress or something... this was for a real Porschephile...
I just feel bad when people are not satisfied b/c they feel it is not what they bought when actually the reason to have a 3m Clear bra is to keep this 21st century non-lead paint to stick to these beautiful cars....
You can't have it both ways guys.... you either protect the paint by covering it and having some visible lines from some angles... or you don't and over time take wear and tear....
For me after not having a clear bra before and seeing vehicles with 30k miles I will always have a Clear bra on every car I own from here on out... the benifits on the resale is very high....b/c you can remove the clear bra... have a nice detail and have a showroom paint for the next owner... or leave the clear bra for those that understand the benifit....
But it is a choice and with life their are pro's and con's....
Hi I live in Calgary and will be picking up my 07 CS this afternoon. I took delivery last weekend and took the vehicle straight to my local clear bra guy (xpel dealer) he has wrapped the entire car, every painted surface is coated. The fellow that is doing my car is doing a custom job. the actual quality of the application is VERY dependent on the skills of the installer especially in my case as half of the car is a custom install not from a kit. Also the type of film used is VERY important I prefer 3m film as it is clear coated and DOES not discolour over time. but the success and customer satisfaction is dependent on the quality and experience of the installer more than anything else.
My local porsche dealer (south centre fine cars) is anxious to see the end result as they have an interest in referring their customers based on my experience. I have had every car i own done and am pleased to inform that if you treat the film properly ie wash and wax regularly you will have a smile permamnatly as you protect your paint and avoid unsightly damage.
the darker the paint (mine is basalt black metallic) the more critical the instal quality becomes as we all know black shows everything! But the end result is a car that is immune to most road hazards and teens with a desire to write their names in your paint with a key or a nail etc etc as well as the ability for your doors to suffer parking lot door bangs without noticable damage.
I will load pics as son as able and welcome anyone in calgary area to have a look at my car in its "wrapped incarnation"
I can't imagine the ENTIRE car being wrapped, I'm about as anal as they come with my cars but I don't think I would ever do that. Is this your first for the entire car?
Paint protection film has indeed come a long way since its inception. There are different types of film on the market with varying degree of clarity. What is first and foremost the true ingredient of paint protection is the installer. Experience and excellence in installation is the key. 2nd, would be the film. We have been applying ppf onto full panels and full vehicles some 4 yrs ago and to those with keenest eyes could not detect the film unless looking around to the wrapped edges. As a matter of fact, we had a black GT2 (for those who attended VIP Auto Fashion in Los Angeles 5 months ago would have seen this vehicle) that was entered into a Concours and was able to take away 2nd place. Deductions were made for other issues, but the judges did not even notice there was film on the car (which they normally would make deductions for) - again installation is the key coupled with excellent clarity in film.
Well, I am still on the fence about the clear bra or even wrapping the entire car. I think it's something about seeing my grandmother put a plastic cover on her new sofa. Notwithstanding, I cannot argue against the perceived benefits of the clear film. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience having had the clear film removed? How easy or difficult was it to remove and after several years, did the film removal result in the car having to be repainted anyway as a case of the the cure being worse than the illness.
3M has been known to show stretch marks on the film, it really shows on a black car, you need a good installer to avoid that problem. I use Ventureshield and I haven't had a stretch mark.
Wrapping an entire car is a bit extreme, the cost to wrap an entire car outways the benefit. There are areas prone to damage that most people don't know about because they are not aware of the options that you can get with your clear bra install and if you have an experienced installer you can have any piece custom made. Headlights are about the most important to cover, there not glass anymore so eventually they will turn cloudy and yellow, the door edges, rocker panels, wheel wells, A pillars, the rear bumper were the trunk opens, these are a few but you can cover any area without wrapping the entire car. One important note, if your car is carbon fiber, I would stay away from wrapping the entire car.
Well, I am still on the fence about the clear bra or even wrapping the entire car. I think it's something about seeing my grandmother put a plastic cover on her new sofa. Notwithstanding, I cannot argue against the perceived benefits of the clear film. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience having had the clear film removed? How easy or difficult was it to remove and after several years, did the film removal result in the car having to be repainted anyway as a case of the the cure being worse than the illness.
Removing the film can cost as much as installing the film. It is a long and dirty job, especially the 3M film...the adhesive they use sticks to the car when you peel the film off, once I had to buy 4 different removers to remove the glue from a car and it took me and a few other people close to 6 hours to get the car clean. If your car has been repainted most likely the paint will come off with the film, if your paint was baked with a clear coat then you might be ok. Other than that, the paint under the film will be as good as the day you had the film put on.
Premier Clear Bra Installations Reviews
Well, I am still on the fence about the clear bra or even wrapping the entire car. I think it's something about seeing my grandmother put a plastic cover on her new sofa.
Notwithstanding, I cannot argue against the perceived benefits of the clear film. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience having had the clear film removed? How easy or difficult was it to remove and after several years, did the film removal result in the car having to be repainted anyway as a case of the the cure being worse than the illness.