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Old 03-30-2007, 07:58 PM
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How high/low should my standards be on swirls?

Trying to get some swirls out of my Dad's black 997 - due mostly to improper washing technique (and a mark from a magnetic number).

Using Zaino Z-PC, Griot's buffer, started with a white pad, now I'm at Griot's orange pad. Setting 5.

I think that 50% better is about all the improvement we're getting. C'mon, should I be able to get ALL of the swirls out? My Audi is next (practicing on the 997 )

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Sure you can get them all out (assuming are not through the clear coat) however, you will "thin" the clear coat. You have to evaluate and decide how much work you want to do, the likely hood of them coming back quickly and how much "thinning" of the clear coat you want to do (now and in the future when you remove them again).
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C'mon, should I be able to get ALL of the swirls out?
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Thanks Chows - I've been through all the autopia stuff, and its very helpful, but it also isn't as high on the authority/truthfulness scale as a CC member with a black or dark car. For example, the swirls I'm talking about are a lot less severe than on that F150 in the writeup, and I'm still having a ton of time.

I'm also wondering if anyone has had success with what I'm using.
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Swirls are a a difficult thing to talk about. I vae a black CS and there is ailways a mark or two onm it. It is impossible to keep it absolutely clean. Unless it is a show car and it stays inside all the time. If you drive it at all, it will have marks on it. I use the entire Zaino system and use a lot of z-5 Pro. It is supposed to "hide" minor swirls. It really does a pretty good job but they do come back. Make a decision as to how much you want to "disturb" the clearcoat. Be aware that if you drive the car with any regularity, swirl marks will magically appear eventually. It's a never ending job on a black car. Try living with the minor one's. They will, all of a sudden, disappear to your eye as you get accustomed to them. Enjoy the car. Worry less about minor details.
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Swirls

I have a black CS that was loaded with minor surface scratches and swirls. A local body shop guy said he could get them out with a detailing job that was a 5 step process wash, clay/polish, glaze and 2 coats of liquid glass. He also showed me a Black '97 NSX with 60K miles that he was just finishing. It looked better that my CS with 6500 miles.

I posted a tread on the CC forum asking about Liquid Glass under car care. The reviews seemed to be mixed.

The local Porsche club was doing a free detailing seminar the following weekend, so I waited to see what kind of advice they gave. After the seminar I realized that $300 bucks to the detailer was worth seeing what they could do (the PCA process would take about two full days of labor and cost hundreds in supplies).

Total home run!!! The car looks better than the day I got it, and he says the liquid glass protection should last a year. I don't know if that is true, but it sure looks great right now. All I do to touch up is wash, dry and use Griot's instant detailer in between. No visible swirls or scratches and water beads and runs off like it was never there. Hope it lasts!

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I've been through all the autopia stuff, and its very helpful, but it also isn't as high on the authority/truthfulness scale as a CC member with a black or dark car. For example, the swirls I'm talking about are a lot less severe than on that F150 in the writeup, and I'm still having a ton of time. I'm also wondering if anyone has had success with what I'm using.
You should really check out the forums of Autopia. There are some extremely knowledgeable and experienced people there. The forums at Autopia are much like any other internet forum (even here) in that there is some great information but there is also **** and you have have to be able to figure out who knows what they are are talking about. At Autopia you can't go wrong with advice from Scottwax, Accumulator or a couple of the professionals like Jimmybuffit or Anthony (who does many Porsches).

Honestly detailing is all techinque and it takes time and practice to perfect the techniques and skills. There is no magic product. The good detailers can get great result with the worst products. Most well known products work well, the differences come in the ease of use, durability and the type of shine they produce. Unfortunately one article isn't going to answer all your questions
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