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Old 01-14-2006, 08:57 PM
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I went to pick-up my Cayman at 9:00 am this morning only to find that I couldn't find a comfortable driving position, no matter how much I adjusted the seat. I'm 6 feet tall but I like to stretch my left leg until it's relatively straight when I drive because I have bad knees. When I put my foot on the clutch, my knee didn't clear the bottom of the steering wheel by much. The car was ordered with (Non-Sport) power heated seats but I couldn't find my 'normal' driving position.I adjusted the seat to it's lowest setting, slid it as far back as it could go on the rails, but the back-rest was too upright. The only way I could find a good angle on the back-rest was by moving the seat a couple of inches forward which put my knee too close to the wheel. My jeans are 34X32 so I don't think my legs are extremely long. The dealer tried everything he could to get my to accept the car but I couldn't do it - it was devastating for me because I loved the car when I took it for a test drive, I just couldn't get into a comfortable driving position.I asked if I could sit in a 911 Carrera Coupe to see if those seats could be adjusted to my personal preference, and sure enough there was much more play in the seat. It had to be one of the most disappointing mornings of my life. Needless to say I didn't buy the car and I wanted to know if anyone else feels a little cramped in the drivers seat or is it just me?
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Old 01-14-2006, 09:16 PM
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What a predicament! I am sure that you have explored every option for resolving the knee pain, because I am sure that this issue impacts your life in more places than in a car. If you love the car, you could explore getting some type of brace, cortisone shot, or acupuncture therapy to increase the flexibility in the knee while reducing the discomfort. This might allow you to drive the Cayman. Another [better ?] option might be to remove the left foot rest in the foot well of the Cayman to see if that would give you the added length that you need to stretch that left leg.
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Old 01-14-2006, 09:34 PM
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I'm 33X34 pants and the Cayman fits me great... I would imagine it is a matter of driving position preference... I would learn a new position if I were you !!!!! [img]/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/MWPX/regular_smile.gif[/img] Seriously, this car is way too much driving[img]/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/MWPX/teeth_smile.gif[/img] to give it up too easily. I like the seat up and forward, the wheel down and out.... if that didn't work, I'd find another position and get used to it... I think the popular position in days past was seat tilted back and arms stretched out..... so there can't be just one position that works.
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Old 01-14-2006, 09:43 PM
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The trick to making the seat go back farther is to raise it - not lower it, then move it back, then lean the seat back again and play around with that position a bit. I'm 6' and if completely back in this position I have to move it forward a bit to drive using a clutch.

After the seat is good I adjust the steering wheel to a comfortable position but before that I don't even think about it.
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Old 01-14-2006, 09:45 PM
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Did you not sit in a Boxster prior to ordering the car?


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RussR that is very good advice. I'm 6' and going for my first drive in the Cayman next week and will try this out.
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I am 6' and 175, the car I test drove had sport seats which felt snug, but I liked them. The only adjustment I made was to move the seat back as far as it would go. It felt fine to me and I am sure I could have even improved it with some steering wheel or other seat adjustments.


I am sooo sorry to hear your story Scouser, that is a heartbreaker for sure.[img]/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/MWPX/sad_smile.gif[/img]


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Did you adjust the steering wheel? Maybe you just needed to raise the steering wheel up a little.[img]/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/MWPX/sad_smile.gif[/img]
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:13 PM
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I'm 6'3 and when I went to sit in the Cayman I kinda felt cramped. I could have lived with it but it wasn't ideal, I do have long legs though.


I found the best position was to move the steering wheel to my chest then up, did you try this? it gives your knees a bit more room to breathe.


There's much more room in a Carrera, no question.
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:17 PM
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I did sit in the Boxter when I ordered the car, but only to check which seat and steering wheel I was going to order. I just didn't think that fitting in the car would be difficult - chalk it up as a lesson learned!I know I could adjust my driving position for a 10 or 20 mile trip, I just couldn't imagine being comfortable on atwo hour business trip. The dealer never put pressure on me to accept the Cayman I ordered - they could probably see how disappointed I was!Of course, as this was the first time I had driven a Porsche, I had already fallen in love with the engine and handling so they could probably see they still had a chance at a sale I took a 911 Carrera Coupe out for a spin and found it to be more than enoughto meet my requirements.The dealer found me a car withalmost exactly the same configuration as my Cayman(PASM, Bose Surround Sound,Sport Chrono, heated & power seats, Bi-Xenon lights, etc.) and agreed to replace the18' standard wheels with the 19' Sport Designs that I like so much. The car will be transferred from another dealer in the Northeast so I have to wait a week or so for delivery. While I'm disappointed that I couldn't buy the Cayman, I hope to be driving my first porsche in a week or so - the day could have been alot worse!
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:18 PM
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And if worse comes to worse buy the Carrera. It is a very good alternative and 'if the shoe fits, wear it'.
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Sounds like you are getting a 911 - congratulations. All the stories about being or not being able to fit in the Cayman are a bit unexpected to me, since when I tried to fit in a 911 I could not ( I am 6' 1 178lb ) - the main reason was that the wheel did not tilt - on a Boxter/Cayman the wheel telescopes and tilts adding the room I needed for my knees ( 33' 34' len. pants ). I was going suggest getting a Tip. transmission, but if 911 gives you a good fit, for sure go for it [img]/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/MWPX/thumbsup.gif[/img]
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Old 01-14-2006, 10:52 PM
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