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Old 05-22-2008, 05:49 PM
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Cayman X for me... Porsche would name it the Cayman RS America. It would have 350 HP, performance gearing, a stripped down interior, tuned suspension, lightweight rear hatch window, lightweight forged wheels (think Champions) and minimalist side body graphics. Priced around $85k. I'll be first on the list for the group buy.

Porsche can build this car today, but we all know (or speculate) why it doesn't.
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:53 PM
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Buyers with young children (and that's a big % of the new-Porsche-buying demographic) will remain tempted by the 911's small back seats, even if everything else between the 997 and Cayman X were equalised. So maybe half of them would go for the 997 instead, just to have the flexibility of being able to transport their kids (I'm thinking of two-car families here in particular... where buying a Cayman means you are totally dependent on the "other" car to move your kids around).

Everyone else would probably go for the Cayman X, given that it's has superior packaging for a dedicated sports car.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:35 PM
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my porsche lineup concept:

entry level mid-engine cabriolet - boxster
high performance mid-engine sports car - "cayman x"/ 911 hybrid
performance front-engine sedan - panamera
suv - cayenne

to me this covers the necessary range.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:15 PM
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While both are great cars, the Cayman X is an easy pick.
I am another 53 year old guy who has jumped on the Cayman S bandwagon. I think it is easy to drive at the limits compared to the 911.

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Old 05-22-2008, 08:52 PM
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ok..ok...ok .....I might have come up with a better plan ... than my previous one ...

[1] Wait and buy the 2010 CS with DFI, ~310 hp , PDK ....
[2] lower it with H&Rs (unless Porsche offers a Euro Option i.e. at least 20mm) ..... slap on an LSD, and
[3] wait for TPC to modify turbo for DFI engine .... should be ~13k with install ..... plus should be fully "tested' by then ...

So let's see if I get my 2010 CS with Options for ~70K, add + 4k for suspension mods ,+ 13K for Turbo = 87K .....

It adds up to "my" Cayman X with ~460 hp, DFI, PDK, LSD, tweaked suspension .... for under 90K ..... ummmm, I think i might go with that over a loaded 2009 997S that's closer to 100k ......plus the looks, intimacy, pure 2-seater set-up, mid engine .... god, i can't breathe ... want it now ....

...someone help me .... am i heading in the right direction .... ??
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:35 PM
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Cayman X: I could have bought a Carrera S but did not want the 2+2 configuration or the rear engine. I think it was Road & Track a few years ago that said (I'm paraphrasing because I don't have the original quote handy) The only human that can fit in the rear seats of a 911 is still attached to it's mother with the umbilicle cord.

The Cayman has more trunk space.
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:28 AM
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Cayman X.

Love the handling and up to 6 month's ago I had all be it a '92, 911. Really liked the aircooled engine sound, but the CS handles so well and is a blast even driving at moderate speeds around twisty lanes. Makes an OK driver feel like Graham Hill.

911 may be the more profitable.
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Old 05-23-2008, 01:47 AM
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Seems you are preaching to the converted.
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Old 05-23-2008, 02:20 AM
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Cayman X, for sure! Mid engine, 2 seater..no need for a back seat. If you have kids you are going to need another car.
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:33 AM
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Cayman X. No doubt about it. Wake up Porsche!
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Old 05-23-2008, 03:38 AM
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Easy, the Cayman X! Mid-Engine layout (better weight distribution and handling), smaller size, lighter weight, faster (because of the same engine in the lighter chassis). All other things being equal (as your post suggests), Cayman X would be more enjoyable to me.

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Old 05-23-2008, 04:52 AM
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Given this forum, I suspect everyone would answer Cayman X.

A more interesting question might be...what if the reverse happened..ie. the price differential between 911 and Cayman were reversed such that the Cayman was the more expensive of the two...would we all still have opted for the Cayman?
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