Reading comprehension FTW!

"A cool safety feature that BMW installed is that this Internet can only work when the car is parked. Another cool thing is that if the car comes with back seat DVD screens, then they can use the Internet as well, even if the car is in motion. "

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I guess I did not read the news carefully enough. My real concern is how hard would it be for someone to override that protocol and make it available while the car is in motion.

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Thanks for your replies. And no, the car died when slammed and would not crank. One of my issues is that USAA has decided to repair with only the body shop estimate (ie., w/o having porsche's estimate to repair mechanical issues. Given the body damage went as deep as the rear trunk floor, and that the exhaust was pushed into the car, I suspect the mechanical damage could be considerable.

Had a similar experience with '01 A4 several years ago. The numbskull who whacked me provided bogus insurance info to the cops at the scene and turned out to be uninsured (and then dropped out of sight). My insurance handled the repairs and I was afraid to push too hard for fear of being cancelled. Audi body shop put together the estimate and said that it was repairable because the sub-frame wasn't damaged. Of course, once they got it completely apart they found that the sub-frame was damaged but put her back together again. The car was 90% after the repairs and as time went on had issues that might, or might not, have been due to the accident. The biggest issue was that it will never be worth what it was 10 minutes before the accident. If the other guy's insured and you can press hard enough to get it totaled, that would be the way to go! Good luck, and I'm glad that you weren't injured.

I am kind of flabbergasted that they wouldn't bother to have the engine/drive train checked-out on a mid- or rear-engined car in a rear end collision, before deciding whether it is totalled or not. What . . . do they expect Porsche to repair any mechanical issues under warranty?!

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2005 Ford Expedition (to haul the CS)
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Gone, but not forgotten: 2002 WRX, 2004 MINI

I actually wanted to quote the title of your post, think this question should be forwarded by the OP to the insurance co!!

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A good car will get you from point A to point B. A great car... will just get you into trouble!

I agree. Get it totaled.

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Why are you surprised? If he is dealing with the other guy's insurance adjusters their goal is to minimize the claim, so if Sully let's them get away for less they'll do it. He's getting (predictably) jacked around and should be taking proactive steps to get taken seriously, like following some of the advice in this thread.

"My car is a total loss. I will not accept a repair. Total the car and we will discuss its fair market value. If not, I'm hiring a lawyer to pursue my property damage and personal injury claims and our lawyers or a judge can resolve this. ... My personal injury claim? We'll discuss that after we settle on the amount of the settlement check for my car." End of story.

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Thank you for the info on USAA. They will never be considered for my friends or family.
Do you have a lawyer and did you get a check up by a doc? Do you have any neck or back pain??

It pains me to read this topic thread, do I have a claim to?

Class action here we come baby!!!

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I have two body shops here in the Bay Area, California. We crank out about 500+ cars a month between the two shops. So, I do know a few things about insurance companies and shops.

1) There is no such thing as Porsche paint. Dupont and PPG, are two major OE suppliers for import and domestic vehicles. Dupont, is a major supplier for German vehicles. Any good qualified shop, should offer a "limited lifetime guarantee" on paint anyways.

2) Porsche dealers do not have their own body shops, they only do mechanical work. They will either sublet your the work, refer you to a shop(that most likely has inside ties with the shop owner, if you catch my drift) or send you to a reputable Porsche Certified shop. There are plenty uncertified shops, that are aluminum certified, that can probably actually do the work a lot better for you but that takes some research on your part (I only know of the shops in my area).

3) All major insurance companies(non substandard) have great shops. This is a big MYTH and a topic that has been bashed by the media. Most major insurance companies do the research for you and make sure they send you to a qualified shop. It is true that they have set contracts but that's only with rates and storage. This does not affect the quality of your work. The only thing that affects quality is your policy. A lot of insurance companies in order to reduce rates, use Aftermarket parts(Non-OEM). So look into your policy but with Porsches, there aren't that many A/M parts available anyways, so no worries there. Using a qualified contracted insurance company shops guarantees you quality because they are on a strict contract and they need to offer a "limited lifetime warranty". So this insures that the job should be done correctly and also allows you to use your insurance company, to your advantage. If you have a problem with the shop of their choice, you can always complain to the insurance company and complaints will be taken care of right away. I have a lot of major companies that I work with and we get audited constantly, so we make sure the shop is done correctly!

4) Do your research on the shop! Make sure they are I-CAR, ASE and aluminum certified. Here in CA, we have BAR (Bureau of Automotive Repair) and BBB(Better Business Bureau), so that you can check on the history of the shop. Also, most of the good shops are in some type of network and certified program. Make sure the shop has been in business for a minimum of five years. Take a look at the facility and ask for a tour. I give a tour of my shop all the time and give a break down of the repairs. Most of the qualified shops should have different departments and look very busy. We have a separate department for just about everything in our shop. I would stay away from shops that are slow because most of the good techs will only stay with busy shops. Most of my employees have been with me for 10 years.

I hope this helps and as you can see, I don't post on here much. But if you need some advice feel free to call me @ 510-887-9818 and ask for Jeff.

Reckless driving is a criminal offense, not a civil tort. While texting or in other ways taking your attention off the road is stupid, it does not meet the statutory requirements for criminal conduct. Careless, yes; reckless, no. The difference is that criminal conduct requires specific intent to commit the action while simple negligence does not require intent. This is why punitive damages cannot be awarded in cases like this.

He is entitled to compensatory damages for the repair of his vehicle and any actual medical expenses that he has. To that end, I am a bit disturbed that some people here are insinuating that he claim some sort of personal injury when he previously has stated that he has no actual injuries. If he is uninjured then it is unethical for him to claim injury in order to get more money. Bogus injury claims and their associated expense are one of the main reasons why insurance premiums are so high and why unscrupulous attorneys, physicians, and chiropractors flourish. He absolutely should get examined if he has not done so yet, but it is wrong to assume that the crash he was involved in would automatically cause injury.

States differ in their laws regarding what damages can be claimed in crash cases. Some states only allow a claimant to receive damages from consequential losses (loss of profit/use) if the property is used for business purposes. Other states allow this in all cases. The issue with consequential losses is that there must be a way to prove exactly how much the consequential loss is. Everyone knows that vehicles in collissions are worth less, however it can be difficult to prove exactly how much the value has been reduced.