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Old 09-07-2008, 05:18 AM
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Cayman Needs Awd?

C4S is slightly slower than C2S in drag race,but it's quicker on track.
Audi R8 is slower than C2S PDK in drag race,but it's obviously quicker on track.
Nissan GTR is much slower than those 550hp+ rwd cars in drag race,but it's incrediblely fast on track.

So,what do you think of an awd cayman?Do you think it's neccassary,especially when people put turbo kit,kompressor kit on it?
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:30 AM
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awd cayman?
Do you think it's neccassary,
Just add an LSD, no need for awd.
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:35 AM
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You couldn't make me buy one, but that's me. Like Walter said, I'd be happy with 2 wheel drive....
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:38 AM
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Considering many of the Cayman owners don't even take their cars to the track, I highly doubt Porsche even makes the AWD 911 for track oriented people, there is not much of a need for the AWD Cayman.

The beauty of Cayman is the relatively low weight (compared to other Porsche and some other manufacturer models). AWD would add additional weight, and would be a drag on the performance. On top of that with AWD Cayman would lose space up front and would be just another heavy non-functional car.

Maybe it will be better when the HP increases to 330-340 hp. So the added weight would not be a big issue.
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Then there'd really be nowhere to store anything!!

It wouldn't be as simple as simply adding AWD, as to do so would upset the weight distribution.

In my opinion AWD generally can take a lot away from driving when you just simply want to have fun....but if it is just about going fast around the twisties especially in the wet then it's AWD all the way!

For me a drivers car is not one with lots of fancy electronics to make it go quickly round corners or AWD or an auto box to take away the drivers involvement, and for me the GT-R maybe does everything a little too perfectly....or maybe I am wrong!?
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Old 09-07-2008, 07:23 AM
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For me a drivers car is not one with lots of fancy electronics to make it go quickly round corners or AWD or an auto box to take away the drivers involvement, and for me the GT-R maybe does everything a little too perfectly....or maybe I am wrong!?
You are wrong.

The GT-R offers the same level of "involvement". You are just involved at higher speeds and acceleration rates than in the Cayman. No offense intended, but I still have a tingling sensation from driving my brother's GT-R up the "hoot n' holler" section at Fernley Raceway. I was most certainly just as involved as I was in my Cayman.

If it is true nobility you seek, get a shifter cart. A Cayman has ABS, PSM and all sorts of sophisticated driver aids.

There is nothing wrong with being in love with a Porsche Cayman "just because".
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That's good to know about the GT-R, but it still has far more driver aids than the CS doesn't it?

Maybe I have a poor preconception after having driven numerous Audi's with Quattro which are generally dull and the fact that it seems Evo's and Subaru's don't need a great deal driver input to be driven fast.

Definately need to get me a proper drive out in a GT-R
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All the other cars mentioned are different in character to the Cayman. As already stated, the Cayman's great balance and modest power would not benefit much, if at all from awd on dry track.
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My preference is that the cayman stay as light and economical as possible. To me that means AWD is not an improvement. Even though additional horsepower can overcome weight when it comes to acceleration, it cannot overcome weight when it comes to taking turns and having a light feel. My 1995 Saturn SC2 sport coupe excels when it comes to lightness and economy and I would not like to see the cayman move further away from those two key attributes.
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C4S is slightly slower than C2S in drag race,but it's quicker on track.
Audi R8 is slower than C2S PDK in drag race,but it's obviously quicker on track.
Nissan GTR is much slower than those 550hp+ rwd cars in drag race,but it's incrediblely fast on track.

So,what do you think of an awd cayman?Do you think it's neccassary,especially when people put turbo kit,kompressor kit on it?

The Audi R8 is quicker than the new 997 C2S with PDK on the track??? How do we know that? Did someone do a test? More than 1 test?
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:46 PM
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It might be quite a problem to make the Cayman AWD - getting the front wheel drive shaft from the rear-mounted transmission up past the engine would be no mean feat.

Also, consider that while the 911 turbo is AWD, the GT-2 is not. The 911 is available with AWD, so all the engineering is done, but the GT-3 and the RS and RSR variants are rear wheel drive. It appears that Porsche doesn't think that AWD is necessary for racing, but that it may assist street drivers in the handling department (or on slippery streets).
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Old 09-07-2008, 05:50 PM
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If anything the Cayman needs to lose some weight...

However, if/when the Audi TT-RS comes out, I think that you will have your option if you want AWD
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Old 09-07-2008, 06:08 PM
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No thanks. Less power to the wheels with increased drivetrain loss, worse gas mileage, more weight, worse steering feel.

The only practical use for AWD would be bad weather. 99% CS of drivers aren't skilled enough for it to make any difference as far as track times. Plus, RWD is just more fun... especially at auto-x.
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