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Took my 16 year old son over to the dealer today for a test ride in the Cayman.
He noticed that when the sales person put the pedal to the metal, he heard the engine noise, however, didn't feel any appreciable acceleration. This was the Tiptronic model.
So back we go again tomorrow. We have to get him a ride in the S. The car we buy will be for me, however, I respect his perception.
When I was 16, I would have appreciated getting to put my foot on the throttle of any Porsche!
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Took my 16 year old son over to the dealer today for a test ride in the Cayman.
He noticed that when the sales person put the pedal to the metal, he heard the engine noise, however, didn't feel any appreciable acceleration. This was the Tiptronic model.
So back we go again tomorrow. We have to get him a ride in the S. The car we buy will be for me, however, I respect his perception.
Is the Cayman steer and throttle by wire?
Your perception of the car's power is going to be a very relative and subjective thing. I don't know what car you and your son are accustomed. I had a C6 ZO6, and the Cayman S feels very weak in comparison. I believe the ZO6 created a higher acceleration force at 100 mph, than the Cayman S does from 10 mph. The overall driving exerience in the Cayman is great, but it's not a car you should get expecting a lot of power.
Just as a note, in the tip you wont get the max acceleration unless you're pushing on that little button at the end of the pedal travel, it gives the stronger "kick down" (unless you're starting from standstill)
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If it has Sports Chrono then make sure you press the sports button on the dash as that does make quite a difference to throttle response.
Sport Chrono and Chrono Plus
This optional package is a valuable addition for trackday use. Available in conjunction with the CDR-24 CD radio, it includes a swivel-mounted analog and digital timer unit which is centrally located on the dashboard. All functions are easily accessible via the control stalk for the on-board computer. Analog dials measure hours, minutes and seconds, while a separate digital field displays whole seconds, tenths and one hundredths of a second. A second digital display runs in parallel in the instrument cluster. Click this Link to visit the FAQ entry for Sport Chrono.
Part of the problem, at least for my son, the Cayman "looks" fast just just sitting still, hence, it should have some increase in performance relative to his 2.2L 99 Subaru.
I remember when I bought my first new Harley, it looked so big and I expected it to be so fast, however, it was the biggest slug I ever purchased, a 94 Fatboy, nearly 750 pounds. No wonder it had little performance. Once Competition Motors blue printed the engine and tranny, and we changed the gearing, with high lift cam, roller rockers, fuel, larger cylinders, etc., then it drove like I preconceived it should.
My son and I have recently finished rebuilding his first car, a 99 Subaru Outback Sport. With all new poly bushings installed, this car rides and handles like it has Uniroyals: YouTube - Uniroyal Tiger Paw tires - TV commercial For a first car, it has made an impression upon my son. He can feel the road, and even with mild cams, he can feel the acceleration in each gear. The engine is a 2.2L normally aspirated engine, maybe 160 hp.
Hope the additional horses of the Cayman S will make a positive impression on both of us.
Your perception of the car's power is going to be a very relative and subjective thing. I don't know what car you and your son are accustomed. I had a C6 ZO6, and the Cayman S feels very weak in comparison. I believe the ZO6 created a higher acceleration force at 100 mph, than the Cayman S does from 10 mph. The overall driving exerience in the Cayman is great, but it's not a car you should get expecting a lot of power.
Ummm....no. Sorry. I get your point, but that is a bit of a stretch.
A C6 Z06 can go from 80 to 100 in about 3 seconds. It can't go from 100 to 150 in 4.5 seconds.
Not many cars can claim "a lot of power" when compared to a Z06.
Ummm....no. Sorry. I get your point, but that is a bit of a stretch.
A C6 Z06 can go from 80 to 100 in about 3 seconds. It can't go from 100 to 150 in 4.5 seconds.
Not many cars can claim "a lot of power" when compared to a Z06.
I'm not sure I'm following you here, but I don't doubt your times. My point was, jumping on the throttle at 100 mph in the ZO6, generates as much feeling of g-force as in the Cayman at essentially any speed above a standing start. I'm sure that is not literally true if it were measured, but the seat-of-the-pants feel is comparable. But this isn't meant as a critcism of the Cayman, I did buy one. To be truthful, I found the speeds attained by the ZO6 on track a bit of a worry. Call me a chicken, but with only OE safety equipment, I had rather enter a braking zone at 130 rather than 170. While the straights might be a bit boring in comparison, I think the turns will be more fun in the Cayman.
My son and I made our way back to the dealership this morning. Got to make our way around a few blocks this time in the Cayman S. The car felt heavier, yet nimble as ever. Is the suspension set up differently in the S model vs. the basic Cayman to compensate for the extra hp?