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Old 09-24-2008, 05:38 PM
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Hello & a couple of questions

Hello all,

This is my first post to you ladies and gents. I'm excited to be ordering a 2010 Cayman S in March, having just stepped out of a highly modified MINI Cooper S.

The site is terrific; clear, informative, and civil. I've been lurking and reading for a while now, but am afraid I'm still behind on The Knowledge. Having fruitlessly searched multiple threads, I wonder if anyone can straighten me out on a couple of things?

Is there a qualitative difference between Metallic Exterior Colors and Special Metallic Exterior Colors, other than the dollar delta? Do Special Metallic Colors contain more or better pigment, an extra layer of paint/clear, or some hand finishing, secret sauce or other mojo? Comparing the two grades on several dealer lots has gotten me no further than the unoriginal observation that GT Silver Metallic is a lovely color.

Also, as a safety/visibility issue, does the rear hatch glass shed water well? Is it also treated like the side glass to repel water? Do any of you wish that you had ordered the rear wiper? I don't want to clutter the car up, but it would be useful to be able to see out the back. Here in Northern California rain is confined to the winter, but it can come down pretty hard sometimes.

Thanks!
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:02 PM
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Welcome aboard! I too am ordering a 2010 model...and also have a "highly modified" MCS! I may or may not sell the Mini when the Cayman comes in... depends on where work takes me next summer.

I had a deposit on an '09 but then started hearing about the DFI motor...more power, better mileage and probable compatibility w/the next generation GT3 motor/drive train made my mind up. The possibility of an optional LSD sweetens the deal even more for me.

I too am vacillating on the color. I was set on Midnight Blue and almost bought an '08 in that color, then convinced myself that Carrara White would be perfect. Now my wife has me convinced that the car will only look right in black.

Bottom line is just get what you think looks best and don't regret your purchase! You're spending a decent amount of coin on the car so get what you like. I may wind up w/two cars just to be happy!

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Old 09-24-2008, 06:02 PM
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Welcome Babbo!

Can't help much with the paint question - I've wondered about the difference myself. My cynical response would be that Porsche just jacks up the $$$ on the colors that it thinks would be most popular.

The rear window is not treated like the side windows to repel water. I use Aquapel or Rain-X which help, though there are times that I think a rear wiper would be nice. It wouldn't be high on my option priority list however.
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:59 PM
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Babbo, welcome! I can't comment on the paint but I live in Florida where it rains quite often in the summer. In the 6 weeks I have owned and used my CS as a daily driver it has probably rained 10 or so times. I have not needed a wiper to maintain visibility out the rear window and this is in stop-and-go traffic.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:32 PM
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Welcome!

Porsche paint:

All colors are of the same quality and basic composition. There is also no difference in application, clear coating, etc. I have checked the formulas for both Arctic and GT Silver and there is just a bit of shading difference between them, no "more" of anything for GT, its formula just has a bit more grey in it. To have a pint of paint mixed for either will cost you exactly the same.

Cobalt Blue was "special" a year ago, with Atlas Grey being a regular metallic, now they are swapped. No sense to it, just Porsche trying to grab a little more $$$ here and there.

IMO a lot has to do with the interior color you choose. Arctic is more of a "cool" silver and matches nicely with black, blue, red, and others. GT on the other hand matches excellent with browns, tans, terracotta, etc.

I would say don't worry about the rear glass, just wax it like the rest of the car and rain will bead up and run right off.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:45 PM
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On the rear window, I have the rear wiper, and on the few occasions I've used it, I'm glad I had it... those would be when I've had to park the car outside overnight, usually while away from home, driving to or from, or attending a track event. In those instances, being able to use the wiper to clear the glass of overnight dew and moisture before putting the gear lever in reverse is great. I've driven the car in rain quite a bit while on cross-country trips, and haven't really used the wiper - in slow traffic, the Rejex I treat the glass with works better than Rain-X, and at speed the water doesn't stay on it.

As Atlas Croc says, the paint is all the same - they seem to change the colors to the expensive "special" colors at a whim.

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Old 09-24-2008, 09:55 PM
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Thanks 91Eunos, Beez, KS-CS, Ispain and Atlas_Croc,

..for the welcome and clear information. Much appreciated!

91Eunos: The new S is the only car I'd give up the MCS for. The MINI's departure leaves a hole, but life is change and I'm really looking forward to new Cayman adventures.
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Also, as a safety/visibility issue, does the rear hatch glass shed water well? Is it also treated like the side glass to repel water? Do any of you wish that you had ordered the rear wiper? I don't want to clutter the car up, but it would be useful to be able to see out the back. Here in Northern California rain is confined to the winter, but it can come down pretty hard sometimes.

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I bought my '08 Cayman S off the dealer's lot. It had a rear wiper. The one time that I have driven in the rain, I didn't even use it. Its a $360 option and given the choice, I would not have ordered it.
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:39 PM
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It's all been said, you don't need the rear wiper and it clutters the looks up to boot, If you want to be different spend the extra and have "Colour to Match" and pick your own...it's all about being individual me thinks...but it'll add 3 extra months to your order !!!!
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no, just quantitative

if you can get them to park an Arctic Silver next to a GT Silver, you can notice the difference (but it's not much!)

special metallic colors are a "special" marketing ploy by Porsche but also give you the ability to "design your own" or "have it your way"

if you think they are special, the Dark Olive Metallic was a $495 option on the Cayenne a year or two ago while it was a $3000 plus option on the sports cars (and I expect a Cayenne requires more paint than a Cayman)

or as mentioned, one year a color will be special, the next year it will be the regular extra cost (or vice versa)

having said that, I'm partial to all of the metallic colors even though my current car isn't metallic
the metallics are all special in that they have multiple hues under different lighting conditions


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Is there a qualitative difference between Metallic Exterior Colors and Special Metallic Exterior Colors, other than the dollar delta? Do Special Metallic Colors contain more or better pigment, an extra layer of paint/clear, or some hand finishing, secret sauce or other mojo? Comparing the two grades on several dealer lots has gotten me no further than the unoriginal observation that GT Silver Metallic is a lovely color.


Thanks!
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:26 AM
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Agree with Ispain. I also live in South Florida where we have over 50 inches of rain/year and an occasional hurricane. I have seen no need for a rear window wiper. IMO they do not look that good.
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Old 09-25-2008, 04:13 AM
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Skip the wiper, NEVER wish I had ordered one, regardless of rain (or snow).

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