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I’m shopping for a used Cayman S. I spot one at a local car dealer and call to arrange a test drive. On the test drive, we pulled out onto a moderately busy city street, went straight down it for a couple of miles (maybe, while speeding, briefly hit 60 or so), made a U-turn, and came straight back.
What’s the point of a straight test drive in a Cayman S?
I would tell the salesman that you really didn't really consider that an adequate test drive on which to base your decision to buy, especially if you've never driven a Cayman before.
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Ain’t that the truth. He said he was restricted to that route, for whatever reason. On the other hand, I had no intention of buying this car. I don’t like the colors and the options aren’t right for me.
There was one positive side of it, though. I was able to do some good heel/toe downshifts. I got up to 50 or so in 3rd, and downshifted to 2nd. Being able to do this is important to me (note my screen name ). I wasn't sure the pedal layout would allow it, and was already thinking about aftermarket pedals. Now I know I won't need them.
(I asked the salesman if he felt the downshift. He had a huh? look on his face. I explained and did it again, this time he watched my feet, although I don’t think he could see my right foot hit both pedals at the same time. I’m still not sure he understood what happened.)
I have had one other test drive, and this one shifted better. The other was a base Cayman with the 5 speed. It was much notchier than this 6 speed. The 5 speed only had ~5,000 miles, perhaps it will loosen up a bit.
Ain’t that the truth. He said he was restricted to that route, for whatever reason. On the other hand, I had no intention of buying this car. I don’t like the colors and the options aren’t right for me.
There was one positive side of it, though. I was able to do some good heel/toe downshifts. I got up to 50 or so in 3rd, and downshifted to 2nd. Being able to do this is important to me (note my screen name ). I wasn't sure the pedal layout would allow it, and was already thinking about aftermarket pedals. Now I know I won't need them.
(I asked the salesman if he felt the downshift. He had a huh? look on his face. I explained and did it again, this time he watched my feet, although I don’t think he could see my right foot hit both pedals at the same time. I’m still not sure he understood what happened.)
I have had one other test drive, and this one shifted better. The other was a base Cayman with the 5 speed. It was much notchier than this 6 speed. The 5 speed only had ~5,000 miles, perhaps it will loosen up a bit.
From what you're describing it seems like you didn't have to brake while downshifting? If that's the case then you can just blip the throttle with the right foot not having the need to keep the foot on both pedals.
While you can get used to heel and toe shifting in CS, I don't feel the pedals are optimal for that. My soon to be gone S2000 is soooo much better in that regard (same with shifter - CS feels rubbery in comparison). While in S2k it's a heel and toe for me, in CS I do it with the ball of my foot - definitely doable but takes some time to get used to.
You should be permitted as many test drives as necessary. I've already had 3 at my local dealer where we've explored local roads as well as the LI expressway. He couldn't be more accomodating.
On my test drive I had no choice but to buy the car. First of all my salesperson was a beautiful woman. She took me out on a back road and drove the he!! out of the car ( I just can't say no to a beautiful woman that can handle a car). We hit speeds close to 100 mph. Then I got to drive the CS back. I was in love at first drive....not sure if my love was for the car or my saleswoman. But the car was the only one for sale.
My dealer was a regional competitor in the 944 Cup Series, and utterly flogged the Cayman S we went out in. He completely convinced me that the best salesmen not only know the car inside and out, but are also capable of illustrating the limits of the vehicle. You're selling some of the world's finest sports cars, NOT minivans.
My dealer was a regional competitor in the 944 Cup Series, and utterly flogged the Cayman S we went out in. He completely convinced me that the best salesmen not only know the car inside and out, but are also capable of illustrating the limits of the vehicle. You're selling some of the world's finest sports cars, NOT minivans.
My experience as well. The salesperson drove the first half of the circuit, FULLY demonstrating the capabilities of the car, then pulled over and let me drive back to the dealership. That's a great way to sell a car. I need to get an education to drive it like he did.
On my test drive I had no choice but to buy the car. First of all my salesperson was a beautiful woman. She took me out on a back road and drove the he!! out of the car ( I just can't say no to a beautiful woman that can handle a car). We hit speeds close to 100 mph. Then I got to drive the CS back. I was in love at first drive....not sure if my love was for the car or my saleswoman. But the car was the only one for sale.
oldest trick in the book dude.....
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From what you're describing it seems like you didn't have to brake while downshifting? If that's the case then you can just blip the throttle with the right foot not having the need to keep the foot on both pedals.
While you can get used to heel and toe shifting in CS, I don't feel the pedals are optimal for that. My soon to be gone S2000 is soooo much better in that regard (same with shifter - CS feels rubbery in comparison). While in S2k it's a heel and toe for me, in CS I do it with the ball of my foot - definitely doable but takes some time to get used to.
Actually I was braking. I know what you mean by blipping the throttle to downshift, without your foot on both pedals. I do that sometimes too. In this case, though, I wanted to test braking while downshifting. It was only moderate braking, due to the road we were on, but it was a good test. I was able to heel/toe under moderate braking, which means it will be even easier under heavy braking (e.g. brake pedal down even further).
Test drove an Elise in Austin where the young sales guy was into AX- he took me across town to let me wind it up on some great curvy roads cut into a steep hill/mountain like area. Very excellent.
I've got AX friends whose total test drive of a car is to do skid pad circles in both directions in a parking lot. Imagine what the average salesman thinks of that as he dizzily exits the vehicle.
On my own Cayman test drive I thrashed the car mildly and the sales guy got a little nervous and was warning me not to be so agressive unless I was buying the car. Now having bought one (and they know about my AX activities) I came to test a 911 cab S PDK and the same guy just threw me the keys and told me to enjoy the car.
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She took me out on a back road and drove the he!! out of the car ( I just can't say no to a beautiful woman that can handle a car). We hit speeds close to 100 mph. Then I got to drive the CS back. I was in love at first drive....not sure if my love was for the car or my saleswoman. But the car was the only one for sale. 
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