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Old 05-13-2007, 02:44 PM
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Does a Cayman handle better than a 997?

I know a 911 is more powerful, but can a Cayman 2.7 out handle it?

Not sure how you would figure this out since you can't tell by lap times (engine would obviously figure in too much) but anyone know?
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Old 05-13-2007, 02:54 PM
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from being here long enough....i think i know the caymanclub answer...its, yes ....although it may

depend on the driver. oh, and there are alot of 911 models....baseline carrera?..carrera S?...turbo?...GT3?....
are you specifically talking about the 997, or could it be any "911"...ie, 996, 993, 964, etc..

its one of "those" questions.
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Old 05-13-2007, 03:02 PM
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Sorry, yeah, let's clarify that.

Base 997 Carerra to base Cayman.

No fancy PASM systems on either.

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Old 05-13-2007, 03:09 PM
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I know a 911 is more powerful, but can a Cayman 2.7 out handle it?
The drives are entirely different. I believe the CS handles better, turns without effort, seems more precise and predictable, and inspires instant confidence. Within a short period of time, you understand the feedback from the wheel/suspension and know when you are approaching the limits.

The 997 S has loads of power that allow it to be applied “creatively” while cornering. With the extra 60 hp in the hands of a skilled driver, more options are available. You have to become familiar with the 997 S; its “feedback language” is somewhat unique. A day at the PDE in Birmingham, especially the time on the skid pad, gave me the clues to what the car feels like near/at/over the edge – you wouldn’t want try this at home. A 2-day return trip to PDE is planned for later this year; I have only scratched the potential for the 997 S – it is truly a remarkable and powerful machine.
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handling per R&T (of course there are other factors and the recent MT test) http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....&page_number=9

997S

skidpad .98g
slalom 71.7 mph

987S

skidpad 1.0g
slalom 73.9 mph

Until that time, the R&T slalom record was held by the Enzo.

New king?

CS ... 74.2 mph http://autos.yahoo.com/porsche_cayman_s-performance/
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Is the slalom test something we can really use to justify the Cayman's handling superiority?
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In all those tests it did the 0 - 60mph sprint in under 5 seconds , thats pretty impressive !
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I just did a back to back test with a base Carrera, owned by a friend of mine, and we both came to the same conclusion. The Carrera is certainly faster, but the Cayman is easier to drive, inspires more confidence, and feels better on the road.

There is much, much more commonality between the two than Porsche would like you to realise, and it all comes down to the weight balance difference due to the different engine postions.

This was the first 997 I had driven (and I have driven various other 911's, and also owned a 964) and I was genuinely surprised by the outcome. Somewhere in the back of my mind I had harboured a notion about perhaps upgrading to a 997 some day, but after this test drive I consider the 997 to be a poorer car dynamically than the Cayman, and it would seem a retrograde step.

The 997 may sit higher in the Porsche pecking order than the Cayman, but this has to do with image, power and cost. Strike these from your decision making, and just compare the cars, and there is no doubt that the Cayman is the better platform. Even my friend who owns the 997 agrees.

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There is no doubt that the Cayman is the better platform. Even my friend who owns the 997 agrees.
So now we just need a Cayman GT3RS.
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So now we just need a Cayman GT3RS.
Well, yes and no.

Yes if you want a fast track car, or if you feel the need to own the ultimate.

But No if you want to extract the maximum fun from a car, while staying somewhere within spitting distance of the laws of the land.

What both my friend and I both concluded from the Carrera/Cayman test was that the Carrera was faster, but the Cayman (a 2.7 mind) was more fun. You have to work the Cayman much harder to get the same amount of go, but therein lies the fun of driving, in that you can use more of the car's potential, for more of the time.

Rather than a muscle bound 400+ bhp Cayman, I'd much rather see a lighter and simpler 2.7.

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I have autocrossed in all Porsche events and the CS is consistently faster in a short road course than the Carrera but not as fast as the Carrera S. I believe most of the difference in in the LSD and the larger breaks.
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