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from being here long enough....i think i know the caymanclub answer...its, yes ....although it may
depend on the driver. oh, and there are alot of 911 models....baseline carrera?..carrera S?...turbo?...GT3?....
are you specifically talking about the 997, or could it be any "911"...ie, 996, 993, 964, etc..
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
I know a 911 is more powerful, but can a Cayman 2.7 out handle it?
The drives are entirely different. I believe the CS handles better, turns without effort, seems more precise and predictable, and inspires instant confidence. Within a short period of time, you understand the feedback from the wheel/suspension and know when you are approaching the limits.
The 997 S has loads of power that allow it to be applied “creatively” while cornering. With the extra 60 hp in the hands of a skilled driver, more options are available. You have to become familiar with the 997 S; its “feedback language” is somewhat unique. A day at the PDE in Birmingham, especially the time on the skid pad, gave me the clues to what the car feels like near/at/over the edge – you wouldn’t want try this at home. A 2-day return trip to PDE is planned for later this year; I have only scratched the potential for the 997 S – it is truly a remarkable and powerful machine.
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I just did a back to back test with a base Carrera, owned by a friend of mine, and we both came to the same conclusion. The Carrera is certainly faster, but the Cayman is easier to drive, inspires more confidence, and feels better on the road.
There is much, much more commonality between the two than Porsche would like you to realise, and it all comes down to the weight balance difference due to the different engine postions.
This was the first 997 I had driven (and I have driven various other 911's, and also owned a 964) and I was genuinely surprised by the outcome. Somewhere in the back of my mind I had harboured a notion about perhaps upgrading to a 997 some day, but after this test drive I consider the 997 to be a poorer car dynamically than the Cayman, and it would seem a retrograde step.
The 997 may sit higher in the Porsche pecking order than the Cayman, but this has to do with image, power and cost. Strike these from your decision making, and just compare the cars, and there is no doubt that the Cayman is the better platform. Even my friend who owns the 997 agrees.
Yes if you want a fast track car, or if you feel the need to own the ultimate.
But No if you want to extract the maximum fun from a car, while staying somewhere within spitting distance of the laws of the land.
What both my friend and I both concluded from the Carrera/Cayman test was that the Carrera was faster, but the Cayman (a 2.7 mind) was more fun. You have to work the Cayman much harder to get the same amount of go, but therein lies the fun of driving, in that you can use more of the car's potential, for more of the time.
Rather than a muscle bound 400+ bhp Cayman, I'd much rather see a lighter and simpler 2.7.
I have autocrossed in all Porsche events and the CS is consistently faster in a short road course than the Carrera but not as fast as the Carrera S. I believe most of the difference in in the LSD and the larger breaks.
LSD - Limited Slip Differential
A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
To see the installation of a LSD style unit Click Here -> Article Forthcoming Stay Tuned