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Hey. A newbie here, contemplating my first Cayman S purchase (used). Stepping up (some might say sideways) from a 95 993 C2.
Debating between an 07 with 6500 miles for $58900 (advertised here by Nostalgia, btw) and an 06 with a claimed 5000 miles, for $53000. The 06 seems to have the strong upper hand on price, and I'm wondering if there's a strong enough argument for the newer model to warrant the extra $$.
They're fitted similarly, with Sport Chrono & Bose (no PASM or Nav). 06 has a CD changer, and the 07 has the sport wheel and short shifter. 06 is Seal Gray (discontinued, so a collector), and the 07 has Slate Gray (gorgeous, and a more expensive upgrade).
What I'm having trouble finding are any hard stats on mechanical or electronic differences between the 06 & 07. The only change I can see is the addition of the Tire Pressure monitor on the 07 (not on the 06 I'm looking at).
Have I missed an existing thread discussing the changes in year models? Don't mean to be a newbie, but...well, I am.
Hoping this thread may be a place to compare 06, 07 and 08 changes/evolutions.
Thanks!
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
Sport Chrono and Chrono Plus
This optional package is a valuable addition for trackday use. Available in conjunction with the CDR-24 CD radio, it includes a swivel-mounted analog and digital timer unit which is centrally located on the dashboard. All functions are easily accessible via the control stalk for the on-board computer. Analog dials measure hours, minutes and seconds, while a separate digital field displays whole seconds, tenths and one hundredths of a second. A second digital display runs in parallel in the instrument cluster. Click this Link to visit the FAQ entry for Sport Chrono.
First, Welcome to the Club! You have come to the right place to find out about all things Cayman.
To answer your question with regards to the changes between 2006 and 2007 models, your research has turned up the correct answer. There were no mechanical changes between the 2 models with the exception of the Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS). There is one cosmetic difference between the 2006 and 2007 and that would be on the 2006 the lower lips on the front fascia was silver and on the 2007 it was body color. However based on the color you are looking at, I doubt you would notice too much.
With regards to the 2008 model, information is just starting to come out. There are going to be some additions and deletions with regards to colors both interior and exterior, and PCM is going to offered as extended area only. There is going to be a slight price increase but nothing outrageous. You might do a search on 2008 models since this was a recent and much debated topic here.
As far as the mechanicals for the 2008, there is not definitive news, just a lot of speculation. However, as soon as anything is announced, you will find it here.
Search around the forums, I'm sure any question you may have has been discussed and you will find a lot of great responses here.
I hope this helps and again, Welcome to the Cayman Club.
TPMS
TPMS - The Tire Pressure Monitoring System provides early warning of any drop in pressure by continuously monitoring the pressure in each tire and alerting you in the onboard computer display in the event of a pressure deficiency. It communicates the exact pressure of each tire and/or their deviation from ideal pressure. This does away with the need for regular air pressure checks at the service station, which often prove highly inconvenient.
First, Welcome to the Club! You have come to the right place to find out about all things Cayman.
To answer your question with regards to the changes between 2006 and 2007 models, your research has turned up the correct answer. There were no mechanical changes between the 2 models with the exception of the Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS). There is one cosmetic difference between the 2006 and 2007 and that would be on the 2006 the lower lips on the front fascia was silver and on the 2007 it was body color. However based on the color you are looking at, I doubt you would notice too much.
With regards to the 2008 model, information is just starting to come out. There are going to be some additions and deletions with regards to colors both interior and exterior, and PCM is going to offered as extended area only. There is going to be a slight price increase but nothing outrageous. You might do a search on 2008 models since this was a recent and much debated topic here.
As far as the mechanicals for the 2008, there is not definitive news, just a lot of speculation. However, as soon as anything is announced, you will find it here.
Search around the forums, I'm sure any question you may have has been discussed and you will find a lot of great responses here.
I hope this helps and again, Welcome to the Cayman Club.
May I ,for one, congratulate you for an exellent response to the new memeber.
TPMS
TPMS - The Tire Pressure Monitoring System provides early warning of any drop in pressure by continuously monitoring the pressure in each tire and alerting you in the onboard computer display in the event of a pressure deficiency. It communicates the exact pressure of each tire and/or their deviation from ideal pressure. This does away with the need for regular air pressure checks at the service station, which often prove highly inconvenient.
I would only suggest that if you are considering that price range, you might be able to find something new. There are still a few 06's around and likely a number of 07's. Lightly optioned, you can easily find something new in $55-60k range after discounts. I would think that at this time of year you should be able to get at least 10% off MSRP, if not more, depending on your local market conditions. Or at least use this info when negotiating for one of the ones you mentioned...
I took an 06 because I could get one with WAY MORE options AND save 5k. I got some pretty nice/rare options such as nav and sport seats and full leather.
I have no interest in a stripped down car at this price level, or a car with just the basics.
I'd rather buy new wheels or something with the extra 5 thousand. Or if you track the car, spend the money on lsd.
Wouldn't you rather have the exact same car, extra options, new wheels, and LSD? Versus same car, fewer options but 1 year newer? My used 06 has 4k on it and its absolutely mint, not a scratch on the leather or on the paint.
LSD - Limited Slip Differential
A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
To see the installation of a LSD style unit Click Here -> Article Forthcoming Stay Tuned
A new car is cool. And when the CS first came out, IMO, it was worth the extra $$. Had I have waited until now, I would likely look for well-optioned, well cared for 2006 CS in my favorite color.
KOR is right; the extra $$ will pay for some other options - like wheels, exhaust, etc. And, if you get a used 2006 or 2007 from a dealer, you may be able to get a Porsche factory warranty to 100,000 miles and a few extra years.
I think the only difference from 2006 to 2007 is that you get TPMS whether you want it or not.
TPMS
TPMS - The Tire Pressure Monitoring System provides early warning of any drop in pressure by continuously monitoring the pressure in each tire and alerting you in the onboard computer display in the event of a pressure deficiency. It communicates the exact pressure of each tire and/or their deviation from ideal pressure. This does away with the need for regular air pressure checks at the service station, which often prove highly inconvenient.
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Didn't they add the window automatic lowering in the 07s to make trunk closing easier? Sport steering, sport shifter are definitely plusses, I also really like the way Slate Gray looks as well..
Debating between an 07 with 6500 miles for $58900 (advertised here by Nostalgia, btw) and an 06 with a claimed 5000 miles, for $53000. The 06 seems to have the strong upper hand on price, and I'm wondering if there's a strong enough argument for the newer model to warrant the extra $$.
I had to make the same choice and decided to go with the 06. After negotiations I got my car for $51k (list in late 2005 was $67). It's a CS with 19" tires, leather, heated seats. No PCM or PASM.
After my first track event - I'm a little sorry I didn't get the Active Suspension Management. The nicely notched sports wheel would have been a plus too! But I did get full leather, metallic paint etc. for a really good price. The CS had been on the lot for over 90 days and I am a repeat customer at that dealership.
They offered me an after-market warranty extension if I wanted it. I figured there's more fun to be had by not having a warranty - and I didn't think the value was there for the price they were asking for the third-party warranty.
If you want the exact car of your dreams - get the new one. If you can get close and want to save some money - used is great.
You should get the dealer to check the computer and verify that no one abused the car (overrevs, etc.) and you should be fine.
Dfogal.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM