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Thanks for posting. Some of the article may be missing, but the results of the driving comparison were obvious to me before even reading this. I have not driven an 135i yet, but from years of experience with BMW's it is clear to me that the 135i is a different animal than the Cayman. Of course it is faster is a straight line with a twin-turbo, rated very conservatively at 300 hp (probably closer to 350 hp, in reality). Howwever the Cayman weighs 450 lbs less with perfect balance, sublime steering, perfect clutch, perfect shifter, and firm tight brakes with fixed calipers. So what car do you really want? I chose the Cayman. In one of my other posts, I stole from BMW's advertising slogan stating that in reality the Cayman is the "ultimate driving maching." Here, I will steal another of BMW's slogans in describing the Cayman: "Happiness is not around the corner, happiness is the corner."
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2008 Cayman (2.7) 2001 BMW 330i, 1998 BMW M3 Sedan, 1989 BMW 325i (track car), 2003 Yukon XL
Yes, it was a good read. Thanks for posting it. Too bad none of the American car magazines can give us this kind of insight. All they do is write 20 paragraphs of specifications and hardware details, then finish up with three paragraphs of behind the wheel observations. Rarely, if ever, do they give us a real insightful description of the driving and handling characteristics.
Yes, it was a good read. Thanks for posting it. Too bad none of the American car magazines can give us this kind of insight. All they do is write 20 paragraphs of specifications and hardware details, then finish up with three paragraphs of behind the wheel observations. Rarely, if ever, do they give us a real insightful description of the driving and handling characteristics.
Why is there nothing close to an American version of Top Gear? (or Fifth Gear...I am Tiff fan, myself)
Why is there nothing close to an American version of Top Gear? (or Fifth Gear...I am Tiff fan, myself)
Lawyers?
Great question. It must be lawyers and/or the perceived lack of a viable commercial audience. PBS only has the "courage" to give us Autoweek, which I find boring, at best. Isn't it interesting that BBC, which is effectively public television in the UK, can present Top Gear. I guess Fifth Gear is a little more "tame" because they do have to sell sponsorship. Speed TV can show motorcyclists doing dangerous and illegal stunts, but they can not show us a "real" car show like Top Gear. Though if they did, it would be cut with 20 or 25 minutes of commercials! If it weren't for F1 coverage and the sports car racing coverage, they would be pretty much worthless to me.
I do laugh a lot more at Top Gear's slightly immature attitude. Fifth Gear is more grown-up. That said I watch and enjoy every episode of both shows. Jeremy Clarkson and Tiff Needell are both fun to watch behind the wheel. Given the choice of a ride with only one of them, I'd choose Tiff. Given the choice of a beer with one, I'd choose Jeremy.
This article is helping me to look at the Cayman in an even more favorable light.
I've been curious about the 135i for well over a year already, and how it would ultimately compare to the regular Cayman. In the meantime I've checked both of them out (but not yet driven either since I'm not currently in the market for a car). Decently equipped versions of the 135i are definitely priced in the same range as a lightly equipped Cayman here in Munich, so it's a fair comparison. I'm disappointed by the front end appearance of the 2-door coupé, which is nearly identical to that of the hatchback. Also, I was rather surprised that the new coupé would come in so heavy. By comparison, the Cayman looks great and is nearly 200 kg lighter. The version with the normally aspirated 3 liter engine with 272 horsepower would be more interesting for me, especially since gasoline now goes for roughly $8/gallon. (If gas were that expensive in the US, I wonder how many Cayman S drivers visiting this forum would tend to prefer the Cayman with smaller engine instead.) Oh, and the Nissan, well, who cares, it's just too ugly for my taste.
2001 BMW 330i, 1998 BMW M3 Sedan, 1989 BMW 325i (track car), 2003 Yukon XL
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