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A good driver in a Boxter will out drive a fair driver in a Carrerra, too, I'm pretty sure!
I totally agree with you, the driver is more important than the car if the cars are close in performance abilities. This past summer at two different Porsche club AX events I posted faster times in my 07 Boxster S than one of our members in his new 2007 GT3. The GT3 is by far a superior car, but it needs an experience driver to exploit its amazing capabilities.
One of our season veterans took the GT3 out for some driver training with the owner, now that was impressive, he was 5 seconds faster than any times posted by a Boxster/ Cayman S to date.
My wife took delivery of a LE Boxster S in October and I've had a chance to drive the CS and the LES side by side. Both cars have the 3.4L engine as you probably know. The subjective differences between the two cars is actually quite significant. Because of the soft top, even with its lining, the Boxster transmits more non-automotive sounds to the cockpit. The CS, in contrast, transmits all the available mechanical sounds the engine and exhaust have to offer, but w/o extaneous influences. My wife's standard sport exhaust does not sound as throaty or prominent as my standard exhaust. Despite the same windshield and seating, the CS feels more intimate because it's quieter in terms of non-mechanical sounds, which can be appreciated most noticably at highway speeds. The Boxster is extremely enjoyable to drive, but even in bright orange, does not have the vicarious "race car" personality of the CS. Once the top is down, the Boxster's true raison d'etre becomes apparent. Porsche style open air motoring is what the Boxster is all about. Clearly w/ the 3.4L engine (I owned a 99 2.5L) the chasis of the Boxster comes alive as it always should have. I have no question that in terms of actual performance the coupe and roadster are equal, and equally brilliant, but a prospective buyer should consider that each offers a different kind of driving experience despite the similarity on paper.
I have the LE Boxster and a Cayman. I switch every other day. They are both fun to drive and both have more power and fun than any of us "need" for daily driving. Whichever car you have or get will be the right choice. I do have to say though, I was driving yesterday and I thought the Boxster was very quiet for being a soft top (outside noise). I think the engine sound is even more pronounced in the Boxster. I keep thinking I don't need to keep both of them, but every time I drive one or the other, I don't want to give either up. To each his own!
PSE - Porsche Sports Exhaust System
The acoustics of this dual-mode sports exhaust system are dependent on driving style, ranging from standard output during normal road driving to a more aggressive tone during performance use. Modes are selected using a button on the center console (or ‘Sport’ mode button on vehicles with optional Sport Chrono Package/Sport Chrono Package Plus).
Introduction planned for 04/2007. Some models may require additional components. For detailed information about this product, please contact your Porsche dealer.
Part no. 987 044 200 00
Click Here for the FAQ on the Porsche Sports Exhaust
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Awesome. This is the way to go. Have both a Boxster S and a Cayman S!
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Originally Posted by CaymanMS4RS
I have the LE Boxster and a Cayman. I switch every other day. They are both fun to drive and both have more power and fun than any of us "need" for daily driving. Whichever car you have or get will be the right choice. I do have to say though, I was driving yesterday and I thought the Boxster was very quiet for being a soft top (outside noise). I think the engine sound is even more pronounced in the Boxster. I keep thinking I don't need to keep both of them, but every time I drive one or the other, I don't want to give either up. To each his own!
This is inaccurate. See the FAQ. The CS unseated the BS with 74.2 mph. Your information is old.
You have a point. When I wear my silk undies I can feel .3 difference on the skidpad. Sport Auto published track times at the 'Ring...05 Boxster S 3.2L 280 HP 8min 23sec. 06 Cayman S 295 HP 8min 25 sec. Boxster S with 15 HP less is 2 sec FASTER. Of course in the hands of the master, Walter Rohrl in the CS turned 8 min 11 sec. It really is more about the driver than the car.
Last edited by Cayman Cabriolet; 12-27-2007 at 08:02 PM.
You have a point. When I wear my silk undies I can feel .3 difference on the skidpad.
It looked to me you were trying to make a point. Your data was not correct.
Both cars are fine cars and do very well. I have no issue with Boxsters, I was just correcting your data. Some ppl like ragtops, some don't. If I was in the market for a ragtop, it would be the Boxster!
It looked to me you were trying to make a point. Your data was not correct.
Both cars are fine cars and do very well. I have no issue with Boxsters, I was just correcting your data. Some ppl like ragtops, some don't. If I was in the market for a ragtop, it would be the Boxster!
Road and Track published two summaries in the back of two issues. One on April 07 had CS/BS @ 70.6/73.9. The other was 71.7/73.9. Car and Driver may have gotten 74.2. My point is my data is not "selective", nor "incorrect". Different testers simply have DIFFERENT DATA. THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE DRIVER.
Road and Track published two summaries in the back of two issues. One on April 07 had CS/BS @ 70.6/73.9. The other was 71.7/73.9. Car and Driver may have gotten 74.2. My point is my data is not "selective", nor "incorrect". Different testers simply have DIFFERENT DATA. THE DIFFERENCE IS IN THE DRIVER.
August, R&T, 2006. CS is 74.2 mph, not C&D. Sure, different drivers, different results. Same magazine, the results should be consistent or they don't mean anything.
I did not say the results were selective, I said your numbers there were not correct or maybe no update. That's fine. Both are great cars
August, R&T, 2006. CS is 74.2 mph, not C&D. Sure, different drivers, different results. Same magazine, the results should be consistent or they don't mean anything.
I did not say the results were selective, I said your numbers there were not correct or maybe no update. That's fine. Both are great cars
Ken used "selective". You used "incorrect".But we are getting off TRACK. ROAD data is a accumulation of tests and averaged, or the mean is selected. The greater the sample of data, the more meaningful the data becomes. Measurement itself is a science. But the 74.2 and 70.6 are quite far apart, sometimes the high and low figures are thrown out so as not to skew the sampling. Here there are not enough test samples to do that.
Last edited by Cayman Cabriolet; 12-27-2007 at 09:36 PM.
Agree with Cayman Cabriolet. He just cited data from the same source that supposedly attempts to equalize other variables. I've seen those numbers for some time now in the magazine and found it somewhat interesting. Could be the driver, could be the tires, could've been a different slalom course, the temperature, alignment of the planets, etc. The data he cited is not more or less accurate or up to date imo but its just two data sets.
This thread starts to sound like a bunch of wannabe scientists arguing about first principles and the purity of data collection.
Some ppl like ragtops, some don't. If I was in the market for a ragtop, it would be the Boxster!
data is a accumulation of tests and averaged, or the mean is selected. The greater the sample of data, the more meaningful the data becomes. Measurement itself is a science. But the 74.2 and 70.6 are quite far apart, sometimes the high and low figures are thrown out so as not to skew the sampling. Here there are not enough test samples to do that.
