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Old 02-20-2008, 02:28 PM
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What are we trying to prove by drifting the cars? That was just nonsense.

I'm not surprised the top of the range 135 would beat a straight Cayman, but comparing the Cayman S to the 135 would have been closer in performance and further widening the price difference.
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There are penty of mainstream cars that pack a bigger punch than many current porsche models, but very few that measure up in terms of brand status.
But, and I'm not being a cheerleader here, I drive a Porsche Cayman simply because I've tried BMWs, and the Nisson 350Z, and other far faster vehicles, and the Cayman is, no other way to put this really, just the funnest car I've ever driven. Forget the brand, or the status - this is an incredibly well made and beautifully engineered sportscar. Fun as hell to drive.

And isn't that the point?
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Comparing a Cayman against a 135i is like comparing a M3 against a Cayman S. If you go on Youtube, there are so many soup-up Beemer vs supercar clips----mostly racing in the straight---How boring!

If you are into straightline speed, practicality or better VFM, you will always pick the Beemers or even American muscle cars. If your priority is to own a car which you can take it out for a spin to enjoy, I think most will pick Porsche, Ferrari, Lotus!

An Aston Martin V8 is only 4 miles per hour faster than our croc but costs twice as much! An Audi R8 cost a lot more than a RS4 but I know which car I would rather own!
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:07 PM
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This thread is out of chronological order...!

I started this thread and now it is post #17..?

Thanks for the embeds, at least! he he
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Old 02-20-2008, 06:10 PM
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1.6 tons of BMW vs 1.3 tons of Cayman.

ON a single lap, perhaps the BMW with more power and turbos will win.

But over several laps, say, 10 laps, the additional weight will take its toll on tyres and brakes. My money is on the Cayman S stock over 10 laps.

That's what happened in GTR vs Porsche Turbo too...


The 135i has 6-piston Brembos up front. I don't think the brakes are going to be fading much.


andylee, did you watch the video? There is no dragracing in this review, it was more about finesse and handling. There would be no reason to test the acceleration against each other, it would be another loss for the Cayman, or Cayman S.

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Doesn't the new E92 M3 lose to the Cayman S in overall sports car driving experience? I put more importance vs the M3. Seems like the i135 sole purpose was to compete against cars like the Cayman. I think once DFI comes around they should retest since i135 is new.

I still have to pick up the new GTPorsche mag...
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:36 PM
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That was the most embarassing excuse for a comparison test I have ever seen!

What a waste of electrons.
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Doesn't the new E92 M3 lose to the Cayman S in overall sports car driving experience?
M3 is not a sportscar nor the 1 series. Why even compare

This was also comparing a base Cayman, correct?
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They compared two small rear wheel drive coupes from a German manufacturer for around the same price. You get more for your money from BMW thats pretty obvious., Porsche are never going to win the value for money prize, nor do they try to, a certain part of the price of a Porsche is for the name.

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Old 02-21-2008, 03:15 AM
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The test was fun to watch I must admit. I've been a big fan of BMWs for a long time and owned quite a few in the past, a variety of 3 series 4cyl and 6cyl engines variants, and even including some diesels, but finishing up with an '05 M3. I had also owned a '04 boxster, and an '01 lotus elise so I can say i've more than test driven a few cars prior to purchasing my new cayman 2.7 and comparing it to the others. In the few months i've owned this car I can hand on heart say, it is the most fun to drive for both my daily commutes and on spirited drives. I haven't AX's it but I can imagine thats great fun too. I've got upto 4500miles in this short time, and it just feels like its getting better and better. I had been considering the new M3 as my next car and as it wasn't available when I needed a car, I opted for the base cayman as a bit of a stop gap. I got a great deal, so it made sense to go for this over a 328ci.. It was cheaper too! I'm very glad I made this decision as I can't see myself getting out of it for a few years at least. If I do, it won't be for the M3.. but for another Porsche thats for sure. At the end of the day, as good as the 1 series is, its not a comparable car to the Cayman. They should have tested the 135i against an R32 I guess? Fifth gear just wanted to have some fun, and fun it was.. Thats all. The Cayman is in another league altogether, in my opinion with the likes of Lotus Elises, and Z4M coupes. If I wanted a fast looking shopping cart, then surely i'd consider a 135i.
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M3 is not a sportscar nor the 1 series. Why even compare

This was also comparing a base Cayman, correct?
Go pick up the new GTPorsche mag, Chris Harris compared the CS to the new E92. Find his email and ask him "Why compare?" haha

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Old 02-21-2008, 06:31 AM
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The 135i has 6-piston Brembos up front. I don't think the brakes are going to be fading much.


andylee, did you watch the video? There is no dragracing in this review, it was more about finesse and handling. There would be no reason to test the acceleration against each other, it would be another loss for the Cayman, or Cayman S.
I'm too lazy to look up times but the CS gives up 10-15 hp but weighs hundreds less, and should have the advantage of the mid-engine giving better launch weight on the rear wheels. Now the 1 has the electronic diff but in the end I don't think it would be a walk for the BMW.

In the end, if it was only about straight line and numbers I'd get a Suzuki B-King and go hunt for Vipers and Vettes....
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Old 02-21-2008, 06:39 AM
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