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In C&D's lightning lap, a 335i ran VIR in 3:10.5 versus 309.6 for the Cayman S. The 1 series is lighter and has better brakes than the 3. Weight distro is very close to 50:50, and another 40-70 RWHP is $350-$2000 away depending upon which vendor you go with due to the easy tuning nature of an FI engine. Oh 1 more thing, the engine is underrated from the factory, we 335i owners typically get 265-275HP and 270-280 RWTQ at the wheels on dynojets and run identical 1/4th times and trap speeds to the 330HP rated e46 M3.
Having said all of that, I'm in the negotiation stage of selling my 335i for a Cayman S.
In C&D's lightning lap, a 335i ran VIR in 3:10.5 versus 309.6 for the Cayman S. The 1 series is lighter and has better brakes than the 3. Weight distro is very close to 50:50, and another 40-70 RWHP is $350-$2000 away depending upon which vendor you go with due to the easy tuning nature of an FI engine. Oh 1 more thing, the engine is underrated from the factory, we 335i owners typically get 265-275HP and the 270-280 RWTQ at the wheels on dynojets and run identical 1/4th times and trap speeds to the 330HP rated e46 M3.
Having said all of that, I'm in the negotiation stage of selling my 335i for a Cayman S.
Weird, huh?
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Did anyone watch the latest Fifth gear shoot out between Jason Plato and Tiff Needle? It was between the BMW 135i and the Cayman and the poor Cayman lost.
But that little 135i is an awesome little car. I want one too.
Did anyone watch the latest Fifth gear shoot out between Jason Plato and Tiff Needle? It was between the BMW 135i and the Cayman and the poor Cayman lost.
But that little 135i is an awesome little car. I want one too.
I just went out to BMW USA website and built a 135i...
Man! $43k for a decently equipped 1 series.
I could have gone much further with the options and pushed nearly $50k!!!
And just out of curiousity, I added the steptronic and some audio options that went over $50k!
Although I paid a pretty penny for the Cayman S, for some reason, that just does not feel right for a BMW 1 series.
I would have figured a decently-equipped 135i would be around $36k-38k.
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EDIT: I watched the videos and WOW! That 135i moves out! That makes a strong argument for its price. I've been in a friends 335i and although its undoubtedly fast, it is still no replacement for my CS. I imagine the 135i is more of the same in a smaller less visually appealing pkg (IMO).
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2006 Cayman S
Carrera White/Black
2007 Audi A4 Avant
S-Line, Titanium, Blk/Blk.
2007 Accord EX-L
Blk/Blk, Springs, Tint
Last edited by MrClean; 02-19-2008 at 03:55 AM.
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I've not see the video, but the website photos show Jason Plato in the BMW. Nothing against Tiff Needell since I think he's one of the best automotive TV personalities, but isn't Jason Plato like the reigning BTCC champion? Maybe Jason's a bit better driver???
Oh I've built one a long time ago and built another one recently and guess what... mine came out $45K! and I did not get a automatic transmission. MANUAL ALL the way! not to save cost but you know what I mean.
SO ya... the way I would want one spec'ed $45K!
But then again my bare bare bare bones Cayman S was LOADS more expensive than the 135i... ouch. and has less HP
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