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I'm new to the forum, lots of great info here thanks
So is the Cayman S really a different machine to the Cayman? I would love to hear comments if you've driven both.
Also if you're willing to share your long term Cayman or Cayman S mpg that would be much appreciated. I figure if the sample size is big enough then how it is driven averages out. I asked Porsche NA if they collected this data at service intervals and they say not.
I'm new to the forum, lots of great info here thanks
So is the Cayman S really a different machine to the Cayman? I would love to hear comments if you've driven both.
Also if you're willing to share your long term Cayman or Cayman S mpg that would be much appreciated. I figure if the sample size is big enough then how it is driven averages out. I asked Porsche NA if they collected this data at service intervals and they say not.
Thanks
Chris
Chris - Welcome to the swamp!
Unfortunately, this is the kind of post that tends to draw the ire of the Moderators, since those questions have been asked so many times before, so I'll try to head them off at the pass . . .
FWIW, I get 18-19 mpg average in my CS in "enthusiastic" mixed highway-city driving. 24-25 mpg in highway cruising. YMMV
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2006 CS Tip (Daily Driver & Part-time Track Toy)
2005 Ford Expedition (to haul the CS)
2006 Lexus RX400h (wifey's)
Gone, but not forgotten: 2002 WRX, 2004 MINI
FWIW, I get 18-19 mpg average in my CS in "enthusiastic" mixed highway-city driving. 24-25 mpg in highway cruising. YMMV
Exactly the same mpg here.... did get 27.6mpg once on a 200 mile long, all hwy run, cruzin at 70mph... close to thier claim of 28
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I'm new to the forum, lots of great info here thanks
So is the Cayman S really a different machine to the Cayman? I would love to hear comments if you've driven both.
Also if you're willing to share your long term Cayman or Cayman S mpg that would be much appreciated. I figure if the sample size is big enough then how it is driven averages out. I asked Porsche NA if they collected this data at service intervals and they say not.
Thanks
Chris
I have owned both and have posted my thoughts. Do a search with DaveN007 and once you get past the silly stuff...well...I have a lot of thoughts on the subject.
Bottom line:
The 2.7 is a fantastic car with a 5 speed. I would guess that under mixed driving conditions you will get 6-8mpg better mileage in the 2.7 based upon my experience.
The 3.4 is significantly quicker, which is hard to gauge during a test drive or even during break-in.
The question comes down to this. Exactly how much money do you want to spend on a car? 2.7 versus 3.4/PASM or none/wheel size/sport chrono/..all will change the character of the car. Used 3.4 versus new 2.7?
Lot's of fun figuring out what you want.
Read up and ask away!
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
Sport Chrono and Chrono Plus
This optional package is a valuable addition for trackday use. Available in conjunction with the CDR-24 CD radio, it includes a swivel-mounted analog and digital timer unit which is centrally located on the dashboard. All functions are easily accessible via the control stalk for the on-board computer. Analog dials measure hours, minutes and seconds, while a separate digital field displays whole seconds, tenths and one hundredths of a second. A second digital display runs in parallel in the instrument cluster. Click this Link to visit the FAQ entry for Sport Chrono.
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I'm in the same boat. I can walk away with a base (same options) for $10k less, but the brakes, 6-spd and extra 10% hp are enough for me. I drove both back to back. The base is nice, but the bang for the buck is the S.
I bought an S and when I brought it in for a clear bra install three weeks later was given a base for a loaner. I felt the difference between the two was signifigant, very much different cars. The base reminded me of my parents old 944, nice feel, solid, lots of fun... but lacking in power. When you go to pull onto the highway and get on it, there is no "Wow".... On the other hand the S provides "Wow" all the time, even when you're not necessarily trying to get on it. For me torque is fun and the S has it everywhere. I'd probably look for a slightly used S with all the options I wanted (sport chrono, PASM, Navigation...) rather then go with a base.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
Sport Chrono and Chrono Plus
This optional package is a valuable addition for trackday use. Available in conjunction with the CDR-24 CD radio, it includes a swivel-mounted analog and digital timer unit which is centrally located on the dashboard. All functions are easily accessible via the control stalk for the on-board computer. Analog dials measure hours, minutes and seconds, while a separate digital field displays whole seconds, tenths and one hundredths of a second. A second digital display runs in parallel in the instrument cluster. Click this Link to visit the FAQ entry for Sport Chrono.
Base for me. People say they like to just roll on the throttle and feel the torque of the S, but that seems lazy to me. If you really need the acceleration, just drop a gear and listen to the glorious noise as the engine winds out. Besides, if you are using anything near to the horsepower of a modern car, watch out for police. You just can't legally use it in the street.
To each his own. They're both great cars. Lower price and better mpg are very appealing these days. But for me it's S all the way baby. Love my car and I'm getting just under 20 mpg combined. But, at this point, I don't make any effort to drive "efficiently". Just cracked 3k miles and I'm still havin way too much fun.
Actually, the CS has a tad more than 20% more HP and torque than the base Cayman. There are a lot of folks out there who would spend $10K just to boost their HP and torque by 20%. But the CS is also nicely equipped with better standard features, such as a 6-spd MT, 18" wheels/tires, bigger brakes, better audio system, and... the "S".
As for using the extra power and torque legally on a public roadway, there are many opportunities to do that. Choose safely/wisely...
I took a different approach. Looked at all the cars I had owned before (924 turbo, 944 S2, integra GSR, GTI VR6) and noticed that the base Cayman was faster than any of them. Never once had I thought any of those cars lacked power. I test drove the 2.7 twice, once in break-in mode, and once a demo with 10k miles. Neither car disappointed on power at all.
I've only had the car for a few days now, but the 2.7 is a gem of a motor, and the whole package is pretty irresistable. Mine was low on the options and only cost in the mid $40ks. After blasting around the mountains for 150 miles, and then crusing for another 50 miles with a bike on top of the car I am getting 22 MPG on a brand new motor. I also stuck with the 17" wheels, so it shouldn't have running costs much higher than a Camry.
I know the S is faster, but so is a 911 and then a 911 turbo. It's all about the cost to benefit ratio in your mind. $10,000 buys a lot of stuff, so you need to decide if you want to spend it on 50 hp and 50 lb ft of torque. I highly recommend you drive demos of both cars so you can feel the motors at full bore. In my mind, after driving the 2.7 there was no way I needed to spend another $10k. It is really a personal decision though, based on budget, and what you enjoy.
Bought my S before there was a non-S, in fact before there was an S in the US, and have always been very satisfied with the car.
Re MPG, on track in the 9-10 range and high 20's with moderate highway speeds, 70ish. No non-S mileage checks but the one I drove briefly was OK in my opinion, better than expected in fact.
If you are interested in SCCA autocrossing the S is in SS where it is seldom competitive whereas the non-S is in AS where I think it can be fairly competitive.
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