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Old 08-25-2008, 05:58 AM
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Nissan GT-R versus Porsche Cayman S: $75K comparo

Linking this thread and extending under a better, searchable thread title...

I am excited. I can't help it, guys.
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Old 08-26-2008, 05:38 AM
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Full Day Number One: 200 miles round trip freeway drive (EDH to Walnut Creek, CA)

Getting a bit too cozy. We have a silver Honda Odyssey, too. Sorry...you have to go home on Friday!





The car senses the fob in my pocket so the door unlocks when I push the "request" button next to the hidden handle. Foot on the brake and hit the "start button". Select "R". Ha! a weak link in the techno-tranny! It fells a bit jerky as I back up with the wheel cranked, up my driveway a bit. Not as smooth as the rest of the Auto operations.

I put the suspension in "comfort" and the tranny in Auto. In Auto it feels almost like a CVT. At normal traffic pace it shifts through every gear and into 6th by the time you are going 35 mph. It has plenty of torque down low and only downshifts when you take a concerted jab at the throttle. Think about that. 1-2-3-4-5-6 and you barely feel it. It down shifts into 2nd as you come to a stop and only selects 1st if you completely stop.

On the freeway I adjust the Auto climate, plug in an address into the Nav system, fire up the iPod, and settle in. There is a good bit of road noise from the tires. The ride is a bit softer than my Cayman on 18s with no PASM, but still tight and firm. I am really likiing all of the gadgets. You can custom program gauges into some of the screens. One screen tells me my water temp is 185, oil temp is 195, tranny fluid is 199, oil pressure is 56 psi, tranny pressure is LOWish (normal)...pretty sweet.

After about 20 miles I have a wave come over me. This could be the perfect "all around car". And I will be able to afford one when the premium goes away! It isn't as "sporty" as my Cayman, but in Auto/comfort mode it is a completely different car than when it is in manual/sport mode.

Acceleration feels smoother than a stock Turbo. The engine feels like a V8, not an FI 6.

It is a gorgeous car when you are looking through the windshield and can't see the exterior. Then again, alchohol and coffee don't "taste good" until you associate what they do for you with the flavor. My Cayman is so much more sensual.

The car gets lots of attention from a different class of people than your average Porsche. Nissan 350Z drivers give you the "hang loose" gesture. Slammed Civics worship it.

I was curious to see what I would have to pay for the comforts in Porsche dollars. My config for a Cayman S = $90,465 MSRP

And a Turbo...the car that arguably equals the performance? $149,680

Simply too much to spend on a car for me.

Tomorrow I will drive in a more spirited fashion...also I take my Cayman in for service first thing in the AM, so I will have back to back driving to report.

Saturday and Sunday we will be at Reno-Fernley with Hooked on Driving. So I will have a track report.

4 miles and 24 turns !
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:42 PM
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Nice. Make sure to get some pics from the track. I think I'm going with white/frost. The dealers here have already dropped 10 to 15k off the premiums but I'm still holding for msrp, been burned too much in the past and like you have an 08 porsche to pass the time with.
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Old 08-26-2008, 05:04 PM
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Speaking of passing the time in my 08...I am sitting in a nice cafe enjoying breakfast while my Cayman is in for an oil change.

What a great car.

A completely engaging drive.

The GT-R wins the "freeway cruise" contest...where you don't really want to drive. Especially because of all of the other things the car offers in terms of entertainment and comfort.

My Cayman still wins the "sports car" award.

My brother demanded that I drive the GT-R hard today, so my jumping from one to the other should be interesting.
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Old 08-26-2008, 05:11 PM
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Meet you halfway. We'll be at Reno/Fernley next weekend.
Dang, you guys are serious! I was at Reno-Fenley 3 weeks ago with the Audi. Unfortunately I leave for Europe on Sunday. Otherwise I would go for a double day at Reno with the TPC Cayman.
Have fun, guys. I'm sure you will.
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Dave--I'm going to be at Southlake Tahoe this weekend. Unfortunately not with the CS. I'll try and swing by maybe Sunday.
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My brother demanded that I drive the GT-R hard today, so my jumping from one to the other should be interesting.
Please show no mercy.

If the stock GT-R doesn't float your boat, fear not. My Cobb Accessport tuning gizmo just arrived at home. +60HP/+70TQ on pump gas with stock exhaust. ECU tune only. $995. More aggressive maps will be free when they are released but will require new exhaust.
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It is a gorgeous car when you are looking through the windshield and can't see the exterior. Then again, alchohol and coffee don't "taste good" until you associate what they do for you with the flavor. My Cayman is so much more sensual.

The car gets lots of attention from a different class of people than your average Porsche. Nissan 350Z drivers give you the "hang loose" gesture. Slammed Civics worship it.
lol... very poetic. Please do post more impressions on the new RE070's... I have high hopes for its grip in looking over its tread pattern, it's half RE050A and half RE-01R, a two face of a tire? You know...good manners on the street with vomit-inducing grip in the twisties...

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Old 08-27-2008, 07:03 AM
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Please show no mercy.

If the stock GT-R doesn't float your boat, fear not. My Cobb Accessport tuning gizmo just arrived at home. +60HP/+70TQ on pump gas with stock exhaust. ECU tune only. $995. More aggressive maps will be free when they are released but will require new exhaust.
Not to sound like a "fanboy", but that is 15% more HP.

I can't get 15% more HP for $995. That puts it in the modded 996 Turbo power range...so even a sleeper 996 Turbo should not pose a problem.

I am starting to sound like the white part of sushi.

Don't worry guys, I am not like a DEA agent who gets too close to the biker gang he has infiltrated.

Tomorrow is another Bay Area commute...but with an "R"titude. I might try getting some video clips.

Today was a quick 30 miles of racing around. Respecting speed limits, of course. Acceleration is so smooth and powerful. Because of the tranny it has none of what I described as the "brutality" of a stock 997 Turbo.*

*Chris' current 700+ HP in his 997 Turbo must be experienced to be believed.
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Please do post more impressions on the new RE070's...good manners on the street with vomit-inducing grip in the twisties...
Talk about poetic!
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