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I could have sworn that there was an article that compared lap times of the Cayman S and the Carrera on the Nurburgring. Anyone have any links to the article?
If someone finds it, please post it in the Articles section here. That might have been the Excellence article which I only have in hard copy form and need to scan it to get it on this website unless someone has it in soft form.
There has been several mention of the lap time in Australian mags quoting Walter Rohl. 8:11 for a Cayman S with PASM (three secs slower without), 8:15 for a standard Carrera without PASM.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
Somewhere somebody got the 997 confused with the 997S (???!!!)and there was a lotof fretting and angst going on among the 997ers until truth was revealed.
The reality of it is that the Cayman S will be faster than both the 997 and 997 S at most circuits other than real power circuits. That's why Porsche has detuned the car.
This doesn't parse. Are you trying to say the Cayman is still faster than the 997/S after it was 'detuned' or that it was faster than the 997/S and because of that was 'detuned' and therefore is now slower than the 997/S?
Maybe a pointer to your source could help decypher this.
Hi CAPT Ron, I should start by saying that this is just my humble opinion.
I am saying that the detuned Cayman S is still going to be faster than a 997 at most circuits. The lap times I qouted above at the ring is a fact. It's been quoted in various mags. And if you think about how much the ring award a car with more power, you will see where I got my conclusions from. Also there has been various hints that the Cayman S is a much faster car on a tighter circuit. If you can, get yourself a copy of theSeptember Motor Magazine (Australian) where Georg Kacher speculates that the Cayman S could actually be as fast as the Enzo at Bari based on Porsche's own testing criteria.
I concur that they Cayman should be faster than the Carrera on most courses that people here will drive, the tighter the course the more advantage to the Cayman. Not sure where they will class the car for SCCA auto cross, should prove interesting...