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Old 11-19-2007, 09:26 PM
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Can we equal the Italian Cayman Club?

I saw this about the successful Italian Cayman Cup series:
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The guy in Italy who started the series is the president of the PorscheClub there - he got interest from 30-odd people for a series of races much cheaper to enter than with GT3s, and has a handful of OPCs which order the cars for customers with just 2 options - sportchrono and PASM, then the dealer ships them to the official motorsport preparer before the customer takes delivery from the OPC. Just the dash and ventilation system remain inside.
The impressive thing is that the vehicle in standard form with 2 options, so the preparation, which includes a new exhaust and air filter to raise the power slightly, only costs around 1,000 euros extra... There is also an option for superlight wheels allowed in the series
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As I understand they have had over 30 CS cars signed into their series within its 1st year. That is a very impressive number for a country that size. It is my impression that even tho these are indeed stock CS's, they are exclusively track/race cars? Their paint jobs and roll cages and stripped down interiors would certainly support this idea. I would think they are identical to this French Cayman Cup car:
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Maybe the USA is too Nascar obsessed, but I like to think that the USA could/ should easily support such a series. Dedicated only cars would be a harder sell, but maybe start with two classes always available: Open Stock and Open Modified?

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Old 11-20-2007, 12:30 AM
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Cayman Cup is active in France too
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besides terrible cage design it looks great.
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Maybe the USA is too Nascar obsessed, but I like to think that the USA could/ should easily support such a series. Dedicated only cars would be a harder sell, but maybe start with two classes always available: Open Stock and Open Modified?

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You are talking about two separate concepts. Cayman racing as a spectator sport that will earn money? No. Just like it won't be a profitable enterprise in Italy or France. I guess they are too "football obsessed"? Too busy staging national strikes?

That is what NASCAR is all about. It is a spectator sport. It is a business.

As a club sport where folks spend money to play? Absolutely. The real competition will be the "911 obsessed" Americans.

"Spec Miata" thrives in the US. So do all sorts of other club racing categories. I dare say we have far more tracks and clubs and folks with the means to support an expensive driving habit here in the US.
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I was just thinking the same thing.... Hey.... How do you say "What the heck...?" in Italian.....?
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Kenzo Grinzalotta, founder of the Italian Cayman Club, probably assumed it would be OK.
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More Cayman Cup Italiano... So many racing Caymans!... It's great to see this driver's use of different strategies to attempt a successful pass when all cars are so evenly matched technically. Fun stuff!


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More info on the the French CaymanCup cars:

*Important.. The main improvement was the placement of an Accusump to resolve oil pressure problems resulting in engine breakdowns that were witnessed in Italy when under hard cornering.

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Weight: 1230 Kgs (2700 lbs) shaved 220 lbs. net.
Removal of sound deadening material, seats replaced, radio, no sunroof, etc.. The doors remain stock, except with interior CF panels and the removal of Airbags and pockets. Electrical glass mechanism was retained.

Suspension: Billstein PSS9

Brakes: stock except for racing pads and oil.
Work was done to improve air ducting and cooling, which was the weakest link in the Italian Cup cars, and resulted in loss of braking power as the laps went on. Unlike the Italian counterparts, IMSA racing used a larger wind deflector at the control arm level and did not use the front fog light ducting but rather a different setup to control air flow to the discs. AP600 brake fluid was used.

Stiffness improved with a roll cage bolted on suspension pick up points and a rollbar.

Engine: LWF saving about 15 lbs. a different air filter to improve engine sound, but the main improvement was the placement of an Accusump to resolve oil pressure problems resulting in engine breakdowns that were witnessed in Italy when under hard cornering.

No exhaust changes as they would not improve performance while increase cost.

The cars were greatly improved as a result. Laptimes are about 3-4 seconds slower than the 997GT3 at Dijon race track, and at par with well driven 964RSs and 993TTs.
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