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Old 11-22-2007, 10:02 PM
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Porsche Logo BMW M5 or my modded CS?

A friend of mine has a brand new M5 (500hp, etc) stock and he wants to make a few accelerations tests against my modded CS at the old airport strip. Any takes on what the result will be ?

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Old 11-22-2007, 10:20 PM
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Get some video of your modified sports car racing a bone-stock family sedan.

My brother has an M5.

You have no chance, my friend.

That V10 is one the most beautiful engines ever to grace a production car.

Here is my brother setting up to pass a locust at Laguna last year.
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:31 PM
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You can't out-accelerate an M3 or M5
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A friend has a new M5, and there's absolutely no comparison in acceleration - the M5 will smoke you bad (assuming you don't have forced induction). In the twisties, the tables are turned, and you'll have the advantage.

I love the M5, just not enough to spend the $$$ on one.
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A quick run did it

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You can't out-accelerate an M3 or M5
Here it is. Excuse my spanglish.

Went to the old airport strip, and did 3 runs. Bear in mind this is a brand new M5 with 500 Km or so in the odo, so the owner was not revving higher than 6000 rpm (his words).

He put the sport 500 Hp mode, stood still. I turned the AC off, and beeped 3 times. Surprisingly, around the first 60-80 km/hr my CS pulled easily 1 or 2 cars ahead, until we reached around 200 km/hr. Then he pulled all the way up to 250 km/hr Id say 3-4 cars ahead. Then we slowed down.

Bottom line he did not have me, he was VERY surprised and said, damn your croc is fast !

Now, many things could have happened. First he said not to have revved over 6000 so that puts him under a limit, Second, its a brand new car, so the engine may have to loosen up, plus he may have to learn how to launch it better. Third, his tires spinned hard during launch, so he lost the lead in all 3 runs. He got better the third time but still, no cigar for him.

Over 200 km/hr clearly it was M5's territory, but the CS was no slush either.

According to some mags, the M5 does 0/60 in like 4.5 sec +/-. Mine with the mods I have, does around the same time, so if he did not launch the car properly, then that explains the initial lead. But all the way to 200 Km/hr the car could not pass me, I had him on my rear mirror, but close behind.

Then we did a very tight U turn corner test, first me riding as passenger, and boy you definately have to slow down as you can feel a heavy car. The CS on the very same corner does it with ease and speed, with a nice drift. What I did like is that as a passenger, from standpoint, you can feel the M5 pull hard (torque?), more than what I feel as behind the wheels of my CS. But thats only a sensation, because in reality my CS pulls from zero just as hard as the 3 runs proved. But then again, you do feel more speed as a passenger that as driving the car. I experienced that same feeling when driving the 997 turbo, shotgun or at the wheels is a whole different game. Now I see why some people are not content with 480 hp at the wheels and crave for more ponies. But if you drive a as a passenger, 350 Hp maybe all it takes for raising the scare factor.

We did not have time to measure times, as these 3 runs pretty much did it at least to get an initial impression. I think once his car has at least 2000 km in the odo, engine may break in better and pretty sure numbers will improve. Also give it time for the new owner time to learn the car, although he is a young, car enthusiast, with several exotics under his ownership.

Overall its an impresive luxo sedan, very well made, nice leather and gadgets, but the CS is one hot ticket.

Lucky us owners, I tell you.

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No offense but I don't believe you do 0-60 in 4.5s?
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No offense but I don't believe you do 0-60 in 4.5s?
No offense taken, yes 4.4 sec its my best time as measured by a GTECH computer. But depending on the launch, I do anywhere between 4.4 and 5.0 sec, and around 4.65 consistently. All that with desnork/headers/exhaust/evofilter and a 1/4 gas tank with 92 octanes. That helps me put around 12.7 in the 1/4 mile. See Fast Porsche Caymans 1/4 Mile 0-60 Drag Racing - DragTimes.com

Ill measure new times when I am done installing my light flywheel kit (FVD) and the plenun. See if that helps shed a few extra micro seconds.
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What headers and exhaust do you have?
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Did you limit yourself to 4000rpms?

The M5 revs to 8250 rpms and is designed to use every one of them. Plus your friends' car doesn't have enough miles on the car to enable the launch mode.

A Cayman S with 350HP is an awesome car, but your test needs to be repeated when your friends car is ready to be driven properly.

Once you said that he stayed below 6k rpms, the rest of your test became irrelevant. My 3.4 was slower than my 2.7 when I kept the 3.4 under 4k and freely reved the 2.7.

I want a video of the same test in 3 months. :-)

Downshift from 4th into 3rd on the freeway and an M5 nearly leaps off the ground. My brother's 997TT was not much quicker (when stock) when we ran them against each other.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. Check out the vids of shootouts between M5/6s and other cars.

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it's true,

I raced the same guy with the M5, and limited him to 2000 rpms

I beat him in my 325
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A Cayman S with 350HP is an awesome car, but your test needs to be repeated when your friends car is ready to be driven properly.
Agree. It was a nice day, and a good chance to greet an old friend. A car is a car and with an M5 you dont get to see one so close. Your brother is indeed a man of good choice. Cheers.
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How about with the RUF supercharged 3.4L engine, would that be able to beat the M5?
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:23 AM
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