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Old 12-24-2007, 08:06 PM
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Traqmate or not

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Well a few days ago i received the GT2 Timer i had ordered. I was not impressed with the item. Luckily i ordered it from Passport and they have a 30 day return policy if you are not satisfied- i will be returning it ASAP. I then started looking into the traqmate.

It seems like it has a lot of really good features and really provides much better information/data at the end of the day. What i like most is the fact you can actually see the course. I have a few questions- i want to understand it better before venturing into this- its a bit pricier than the GT2 timer but lots more data collection.

Traqmate:

Is the only difference between the basic and the complete that you get in car information on the little display unit real-time?

Does the data collection draw the track for you when you complete a lap or course? does it know this when you return to the same point again? How does this work in an autocross event when the start and finish are in different locations and the finish is not a full stop?

In an autocross or track if you run a different line the second time around, will it draw the new line, or does it use an average line?

My interest in the traqmate is in studying my runs in either an autocross or DE event after the event. Do you consider this data collection system good for this use?

Is it worth paying for the complete system to get instant info in the car? I cant imagine looking at the readout while you are actually driving or even during an event. It seems it would be a distraction. Is the basic system sufficient?

Any other specific info positive or negative would be appreciated. . .

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Old 12-24-2007, 09:19 PM
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Well a few days ago i received the GT2 Timer i had ordered. I was not impressed with the item. Luckily i ordered it from Passport and they have a 30 day return policy if you are not satisfied- i will be returning it ASAP. I then started looking into the traqmate.
As you've discovered, the Traqmate and other data loggers are completely different creatures from the GT2, much more powerful devices. I'm new to data logging but have experience with lap timers on racebikes. There is a wealth of information on other boards.

I looked at GPS and non GPS loggers including the GX2, Race Technology DL1, AIM, Racelogic Vbox/driftbox and chose the Traqmate because it's sufficiently powerful and has good software with an interface I can easily use. I have no regrets so far. It's a lot of fun to use, even just running around town or on my favorite loops.

Another reason I chose the TM is that it seem to have the most market momentum behind it in the sub $1K price range, the manufacturer seems to doing a good job of product updates and maintains an active user forum.

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Is the only difference between the basic and the complete that you get in car information on the little display unit real-time?

Does the data collection draw the track for you when you complete a lap or course? does it know this when you return to the same point again? How does this work in an autocross event when the start and finish are in different locations and the finish is not a full stop?
The display makes changing menus and logging modes much easier, along with letting you view a session in your car conveniently without having to download the data to a PC. You can also download directly from the Display Unit instead of the Sensor Unit, this gives you more options on where to mount the SU since you don't have to get to it as often. I plan to mount mine under the seat.

The DU also gives you predictive lap features.

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In an autocross or track if you run a different line the second time around, will it draw the new line, or does it use an average line?

My interest in the traqmate is in studying my runs in either an autocross or DE event after the event. Do you consider this data collection system good for this use?
Depending on how you mount the antenna and the number of satellites the unit can view most say the line is within 3' of accurate, but others have said that it can be as accurate as 18" from line. You can check how many sats it's seeing in the DU.
I can clearly see the difference in line from one lap to the next, even seeing when I moved over to make a pass.
The traqmate won't draw the track's edge outline but there are some on their forum that are logging the tracks' outline by driving two slow laps close to each edge to "trace" and log the track's shape. These outline are can be downloaded from what I read, as can the start/finish coordinates.


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Is it worth paying for the complete system to get instant info in the car? I cant imagine looking at the readout while you are actually driving or even during an event. It seems it would be a distraction. Is the basic system sufficient?

Any other specific info positive or negative would be appreciated. . .
I think the basic system would be fine. Many loggers don't have a standard display. However, it certainly makes the unit more friendly. You can always upgrade, though there is a slight cost penalty.

Data loggers are fun things to have in the car, hopefully next season I'll be able to put the information to good use instead of just seeing it as just an interesting device or toy, that's the trick with these things, what to do with all the information. It's least important feature is as a lap timer.
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:03 PM
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get the complete, you will want the display. it also integrates with chase cam if you get that later. it will work great for you in autocross now that they have an autocross mode. go to the website to get more info. but the traqmate has been great. and most people have the traqmate as their first intro into gps data logging. so you can trade files with lots of people. AIM is awesome and is the next step up. They have a great display for in car.
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Sounds like you weren't sure what the GT2 device was for, hopefully you bough it at the 50% off price you get by being a CaymanClub.Net member! It is a great device for what it is, but it certainly isn't designed to be like a Traqmate et al.
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Old 12-25-2007, 05:42 PM
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Thanks for the useful info on the traqmate. It’s one thing to read the marketing info on a products website; it’s another to get first hand comments from others with your car and interests. Anyone else who can add to this with more specifics would be great.
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Traqmate Complete: +1
It's a very good data logger.
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It's a very good data logger.
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Another cool feature of the traqmate is the ability to share data files amongst other folks in the Traqmate "community". It is interesting to see the differences in cars/drivers on a given track. I have learned a lot from comparing my brother and others' data to mine.
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Old 12-28-2007, 04:52 PM
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Performance Box

It seems that almost everyone I know has the Performance Box, though I know one or two people with the Traqmate.

I know someone that bought both and chose the Traqmate, but everyone I know with a Performance Box is really happy with it as well.

As of this moment, I'm planning on getting the Performance Box. Anyone care to dissuade me?
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Old 12-29-2007, 05:33 AM
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Nice i want a traqmate too, I just bought a gt2 timer gt2 timer, got a good deal on amazon.com. The traqmate is a little out of my price range right now.
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It seems that almost everyone I know has the Performance Box, though I know one or two people with the Traqmate.

I know someone that bought both and chose the Traqmate, but everyone I know with a Performance Box is really happy with it as well.

As of this moment, I'm planning on getting the Performance Box. Anyone care to dissuade me?

Go for the PerformanceBox. It's a fantastic piece of kit, very well built, does the job and more, unbeatable price for the features it offers, great analysis software and the guys at RaceLogic are really friendly and a pleasure to deal with.

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Old 01-08-2008, 04:00 AM
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I actually ordered one yesterday.
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The nice thing about Traqmate is it can be completely and easily integrated with a Chase Cam to video your track time and map it to improve.

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