Go Back   The Cayman Club > Cayman Discussion > Cayman Competition

Notices

Cayman Competition Auto Cross, Club Racing, DE, this is the place to discuss the Cayman on the track

» Kinetic Speed Shop


» Softronic


» Club Sponsors

Want to Advertise?

Plantium Sponsors
Suncoast Motorsports
Porsche Exchange
Mods4Cars
Tire Rack
Softronic
TPC Racing
Kinetic Speed Shop
Capristo
Farnbacher Loles
Park Place
Hendrick Porsche
M's Machine Works
Modacar
Arlan Motorsports
Autopia
Escort Radar
Wheel Enhancement
Jim Ellis Porsche
Aristocrat Motors
Porsche of Hilton Head
McKenna Porsche
Evolution Motorsports
All Sponsors
» Current Poll - CaymanClub
Who thinks Gator Bite should review these products?
Heck ya...! I'd love to see those results. - 92.86%
78 Votes
Don't waste your time. He won't be objective. - 7.14%
6 Votes
Total Votes: 84
You may not vote on this poll.
» Donations
Your Donation Will Be Used To Pay For our ever increasing bandwidth costs, our hosting Service, domain registration, software licensing fees, maintenance costs and product evaluations Only!

USD $

Please enter your donation amount above,
and then click on the donate button below.



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 10:18 PM
Chris S's Avatar
PCA Member
500 post club
Awards Showcase
PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/2008 
Total Awards: 1
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 972
Images: 5
Country:
Track junkies, check your insurance policies.

My Progressive policy recently renewed, and I decided it would be a good idea to review my new policy and confirm my continued coverage for track events. Good thing I did, b/c Progressive has caught on.

Previously, the exclusion was for racing/competitive timed events. Now they've added an exclusion for "any driving activity conducted on a permanent or temporary racetrack or racecourse."

Until/unless I get coverage for such events, I'm done since I can't stomach the idea of an uninsured loss.

Oh well, I have some near indestructible dirtbikes which are an equally great way to get my adrenaline rush.
__________________
'07 Guards Red Cayman S
'08 Honda Ridgeline RTL
'99 Miata 10th Anniversary Edition
'07 KTM Super Duke 990
'07 KTM 300 XC-W / '06 KTM 450 XC
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 10:37 PM
jcriggs's Avatar
Site Donor
Awards Showcase
PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/2008 Cayman Registry: Award given to someone who enters their Cayman into the Cayman Registry complete with Photo! - Issue reason: Entry 08/22/07 
Total Awards: 2
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Md
Posts: 279
Images: 7
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris S View Post
My Progressive policy recently renewed, and I decided it would be a good idea to review my new policy and confirm my continued coverage for track events. Good thing I did, b/c Progressive has caught on.

Previously, the exclusion was for racing/competitive timed events. Now they've added an exclusion for "any driving activity conducted on a permanent or temporary racetrack or racecourse."

Until/unless I get coverage for such events, I'm done since I can't stomach the idea of an uninsured loss.

Oh well, I have some near indestructible dirtbikes which are an equally great way to get my adrenaline rush.
You could try one of these:

Laurel Driver Education - Porsche Club of America On-Track Insurance

ProSure : Motorsports Protection
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 10:52 PM
phredden's Avatar
PCA Member
Awards Showcase
PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: Added to PCA Group on 4/12/2008 
Total Awards: 1
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 233
Country:
Fixing an expensive car is a financial nightmare, esp. if it's essentially a write-off.

Going to jail for insurance fraud is a LOT worse. And it's not like they're not going to investigate, and they do this for a living....
__________________
2007 Cayman, midnight/tan
2007 Touareg V8, working man's Cayenne, tow vehicle
2007 Mazda3 hatch, ski car and wifey-mobile
1993 BMW 325is Spec E36 race car
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 10:58 PM
DaveN007's Avatar
Caymaniac

2,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained 10/07 Donations Bronze: Given to someone who has donated at least $50 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 5/27/07 Donations Gold: Given to someone who has donated at least $200 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 12/06 and 1/07 
Total Awards: 3
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,543
Images: 7
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcriggs View Post
If you crunch the numbers, a few things become apparent.

You are on the hook for the first $10k worth of damage with insurance or without it.

The cost of coverage appears to indicate a high risk associated with the activity.

If you do 30 DE days a year, it comes out to around $100 a day. I might do 10 this year if I am lucky. That means darn near $300 a day for insurance, plus $250 for admission and another $200 for tires and brakes. $750 a day? God don't let my wife ever see this thread.

...and I just got a complete traqmate data/video system for my birthday.
__________________

2007 Speed Yellow Cayman GT 2.7 (retired)
2008 Guards Red Cayman GT 3.4
"Carpe Cayman"

Last edited by DaveN007; 01-14-2008 at 11:04 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 11:13 PM
phredden's Avatar
PCA Member
Awards Showcase
PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: Added to PCA Group on 4/12/2008 
Total Awards: 1
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: MA
Posts: 233
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcriggs View Post

Thanks for this link...the Laurelde one at least, this is huge. I just had a long talk with "Dave" at their "800" number. They're out of Canada (Toronto), their underwriter is Pacific Insurance, Australia.

Their DE policy premium is 4% of stated (agreed upon) value. So, for my Cayman normal the premium would be between $1,550 - 2,000 depending upon how much depreciation you want to use, and that's for 30 track days over the next 12 months....15% deductable or $5,000 whichever is greater. But that certainly takes a lot of the stress out of the equation tearing into the Bus Stop at the Glen! This is not a PCA only policy...they'll write it for any car for any sactioned, non timed DE and for virtually any vehicle.

If this is for real (they claim to be the #1 insurer for the Rolex series), this is HUGE, definately the best insurance deal out there. Now we're gunna have to do some due deligence and research....

The also have a club racing policy, which is more money, but you can also put multiple cars under the same policy. As far as time trials go, the PCA type TTs at the end of the day, almost as an afterthought, are fine, but not the all out TTs run by COMSCC for example. Too bad because I plan on doing that series this year.
__________________
2007 Cayman, midnight/tan
2007 Touareg V8, working man's Cayenne, tow vehicle
2007 Mazda3 hatch, ski car and wifey-mobile
1993 BMW 325is Spec E36 race car
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-14-2008, 11:20 PM
KS-CS's Avatar
Site Donor

1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained Aug 2008 Gallery Bronze: Award given to someone who has uploaded at least 50 photos to the Gallery - Issue reason: Submitted 55 pictures as of 3/6/2008 PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: member since 2007 Articles Bronze: Given to someone who has published at least 2 articles in our Articles section. - Issue reason: Attained Jan 2008 Cayman Registry: Award given to someone who enters their Cayman into the Cayman Registry complete with Photo! - Issue reason: Entry 08/16/07 
Total Awards: 5
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: About halfway between HPT and Hallett
Posts: 1,289
Images: 106
Blog Entries: 15
Country:
Question You must have a really expensive Cayman . . .

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveN007 View Post
If you crunch the numbers, a few things become apparent.

You are on the hook for the first $10k worth of damage with insurance or without it.

The cost of coverage appears to indicate a high risk associated with the activity.

If you do 30 DE days a year, it comes out to around $100 a day. I might do 10 this year if I am lucky. That means darn near $300 a day for insurance, plus $250 for admission and another $200 for tires and brakes. $750 a day? God don't let my wife ever see this thread.

...and I just got a complete traqmate data/video system for my birthday.
I'm not sure how you crunched the numbers, but using Prosure's calculator, I would have to pay about $1600/yr + 3000 deductible for my CS. For me that works out to about $100/track day.
__________________
My Blogs
2006 CS Tip (Daily Driver & Part-time Track Toy)
2005 Ford Expedition (to haul the CS)
2006 Lexus RX400h (wifey's)
Gone, but not forgotten: 2002 WRX, 2004 MINI
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2008, 01:17 AM
ajgcayman's Avatar
Cayman Clubster
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: FL
Posts: 51
Country:
i have wsib motorsports insurance. they have good rates. check them out.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2008, 01:23 AM
Tomasz's Avatar
Cayman Activist
Awards Showcase
PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/2008 
Total Awards: 1
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: WA
Posts: 375
Images: 1
Country:
What are they?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ajgcayman View Post
i have wsib motorsports insurance. they have good rates. check them out.
Is it the standard for every $1,000 of car value you pay x% per year?
__________________
Tomasz

Apologies for spelling mistakes, most of them are keyboarding errors. To enjoy this forum I run out of time to proof read.
my garage: 2000 Audi S4 (not stock) | 2007 Porsche Cayman S (almost stock) | 2007 VW Passat 4Motion Wagon (still stock)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2008, 05:55 PM
Site Donor
1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Donations Bronze: Given to someone who has donated at least $50 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 7/31/08 PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: Added to PCA Group 2/16/2008 Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained 11/5/07 
Total Awards: 3
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,666
Images: 1
Country:
I really want to learn how to exploit my CS's potential but not neccesarily track it. If memory serves me, when you attend a Porsche DE, they provide the vehicle. Is this the case?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2008, 06:18 PM
DMN987S's Avatar
Cayman Enthusiast
Awards Showcase
PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: Added to PCA Group 2/15/2008 
Total Awards: 1
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Alabama
Posts: 180
Images: 13
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by LA Boy View Post
I really want to learn how to exploit my CS's potential but not neccesarily track it. If memory serves me, when you attend a Porsche DE, they provide the vehicle. Is this the case?
No they don't, the Porsche Driving School does.

I had insurance with USAA and they changed their policies too. I'm going to have to lay off DEs until I get my car paid down. Then I plan on self insuring for DE events.
I think we had a survey here a while ago regarding how many times members came close to an accident during a DE, there were hardly any instances.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 03-20-2008, 11:59 PM
STLPCA's Avatar
Cayman Commander!

1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/2008 Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Achieved Oct 07 Cayman Registry: Award given to someone who enters their Cayman into the Cayman Registry complete with Photo! - Issue reason: Entry 03/17/07 
Total Awards: 3
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: MO
Posts: 1,579
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMN987S View Post
No they don't, the Porsche Driving School does.

I had insurance with USAA and they changed their policies too. I'm going to have to lay off DEs until I get my car paid down. Then I plan on self insuring for DE events.
Or you can change to an insurance company that doesn't exclude DE events.
__________________
Dan
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!