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So I'm all signed up for my first ever DE weekend and I note in the registration package that the tech inspection requires that my brake fluid be less than 90 days old. I presume that menas that I have to have the brake system flushed and refilled.
Around $100 depending on who you have do it. Those tech forms are not scrutinized though and there is not an issue if your fluid is less than 2 years old. That being said I never drive on the track without flushing the stock fluid and putting in something more up to the task. I use Motul 600 exclusively. If you are going to flush the stock fluid it's worth the few bucks more to upgrade.
If you find you are going to do DEs on a regular basis you may want to learn how to do this yourself. It is fairly easy, even for those of us who are mechanically challenged. For less than the $100 you can buy the bleeder and fluid. Here is an article that explains it.
You do NOT need to flush your brakes for your 1st DE at GIR in your pretty new CS. It's not a track that's particularly hard on brakes, especially for a Novice. Call Reid Vann (968-4100) for a free tech inspection which will include checking your fluid for moisture content. In the highly unlikely event there's a problem, I'll bet we can get a flush done at a friend's garage for the cost of a liter of ATE brake fluid ($10.50).
I've confidence your brakes will be fine for the DE and I have a personal interest in making sure they are. I'll be occupying your passenge seat on the track.
__________________ Craig 425-765-1090, www.Rennstore.com --assistance & discussion for your pad selection welcomed PAGID brake pads - Daytona winners in every podium position E-mail for any questions: Rennstore@Comcast.net
You do NOT need to flush your brakes for your 1st DE at GIR in your pretty new CS. It's not a track that's particularly hard on brakes, especially for a Novice. Call Reid Vann (968-4100) for a free tech inspection which will include checking your fluid for moisture content. In the highly unlikely event there's a problem, I'll bet we can get a flush done at a friend's garage for the cost of a liter of ATE brake fluid ($10.50).
I've confidence your brakes will be fine for the DE and I have a personal interest in making sure they are. I'll be occupying your passenge seat on the track.
Normally we do require fresh fluid. However, since STLPCA will be in the passenger seat, take his suggestion. Assuming it passes, do one thing when you get home. Siphon off about a half cup of fluid and replace it with tap water. STLPCA needs the excitement.
Mike
P.S. Because I am the saftey chairman of the DE, I hereby swear and declare that my satement above should not be taken seriously. However, you should still tell STLPCA that you followed my suggestion in the middle of turn 1, coming off the NASCAR section of the track.
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Seal Grey 06 Cayman S with PASM, Sport Chrono, Sport Shifter, Sport Steering Wheel.
Mods:
BBI Underdrive Pulley
Milltek Exhaust
Well now this changes everything...My plan was to yell "Uh oh...leg cramp!" but I guess the water in the brake lines would add a certain sense of urgency. But I always heard you should only use distilled water. True or is that just overkill?
I am also coming up on my first DE. I am having the remainder of my 20k mile service done this week at the dealer. (did the oil and all filters myself)
Should I have the brake fluid "upgraded" to Motul 600 like Ringsport suggested? Is this something that will be ok for the next 20k miles? Do I need to flush again after 1 DE?
I don't plan on doing very many track events, but would like to attend just one for the experience.
Motul will last longer than the oe fluid because it is a sealed system and resists degradation much better. If you're flushing the fluid anyway might as well. Also, you might get hooked on the track like many of us have and find yourself going a lot more!
I am also coming up on my first DE. I am having the remainder of my 20k mile service done this week at the dealer. (did the oil and all filters myself)
Should I have the brake fluid "upgraded" to Motul 600 like Ringsport suggested? Is this something that will be ok for the next 20k miles? Do I need to flush again after 1 DE?
I don't plan on doing very many track events, but would like to attend just one for the experience.
Just another opinion - if this is the first time you and your car have been on the track, then honestly, it's not really necessary to "upgrade" your brake fluid... the OE fluid has the same specs as ATE "racing" fluid, so I doubt on your first ever trip to the track, you'll be boiling your fluid... if this is the only DE you do, you won't have to flush/bleed the fluid again until the next recommended interval of two years... if you end up doing more DEs, then there will be plenty of time for you to "upgrade" your fluid as you get faster on the track.
brad
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PCA DE Instructor
Motul RBF 600 represents your best bet for brake fluid.
It's boiling point is quite a bit higher than any other fluid, it is reasonably priced, and it isn't blue which stains everything -
If I were prepping a Cayman S for track use:
1) Buy a Motive bleeder and do it myself - use it DRY, checking the reservoir fluid level often.
2) Bleed the calipers each track day
3) Completely bleed the entire system each 2-3 track days
4) Use Pagid Yellows and swap out for track days, marking pad locations for easy rebedding on both OEM and Pagids Tie up sensor leads.
I'd feel very comfortable with this - it would provide me with a comfortable margin of safety at track days It's what I use on my 2650 lb, 514 hp Porsche 930
__________________ Craig 425-765-1090, www.Rennstore.com --assistance & discussion for your pad selection welcomed PAGID brake pads - Daytona winners in every podium position E-mail for any questions: Rennstore@Comcast.net
Last edited by Craig@Rennstore.com; 03-25-2008 at 04:40 PM.
