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Well I did it! I just got back from the Porsche Driving School
It was quite a road trip. A buddy and I drove to Birmingham from Denver in my CS! He flew back after the school, but I looped around to the North and headed home a different way. So.... 9 States, 2 Presidential Library Centers, 3000 miles and 1 Porsche Driving School make on AWESOME road trip.
I'm very tired so I'll leave it here. However, if anyone is doubting if the Cayman is good for a long range trip... it's really an amazing car for a long trip. Also, if anyone is considering signing up for the Porsche Driving School in Birmingham... run to the phone and sign up. We had a blast and learned a lot.
I've been toying with the idea of doing the P driving school with a buddy of mine. Both of us are novices at stick shifting, do you think that the school is more for drivers who've driven sticks for awhile already or do you think someone who is pretty novice could learn alot? Did you stay at the recommended resort?
my wife and i are planning to go for the 2 -day course later this year ... any more insights/experience that you could share would be much appreciated ....
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I've been toying with the idea of doing the P driving school with a buddy of mine. Both of us are novices at stick shifting, do you think that the school is more for drivers who've driven sticks for awhile already or do you think someone who is pretty novice could learn alot? Did you stay at the recommended resort?
Thanks,
Jim
Interesting question. Most people that take the course are very proficient at the shifting thing. That said, as long as you can do the basics I think you can still successfully complete the course and learn A LOT!
There are 4 major places that you do exercises. One is a skid pad figure eight lesson. They use a triptronic Carrerra as they want you to concentrate on smooth trailing braking/acceleration not shifting. The second lesson is on a autocross. Here they use a triptronic Cayman or Boxster as they are asking you to concentrate on car control and transitions. The next area changes depending on the lesson. First day it was smoothness, then lane changes, etc. The second day they use it to teach heal/toe shifting. This area uses a Cayman. You can request a triptronic but that obviously negates the learnings about heal/toe.
The last area is the race track itself. If you have no problems getting the car rolling and shifting normally up to 4th gear you will not have a problem. The first day on the race track you take in only 4 gear as they are teaching you turn in points, apex points and hitting the proper exit marks. You do all of this in 4 gear and never change gears.
The second day you have team competitions in the first 3 areas (as well as take a Cayenne out into the bush - impressive vehicle) as well as learn heal/toe braking. Then on the track you apply your heal/toe learnings and shift in several corners down to 3rd. You also get some hot laps in with a CarreraS equipped with ceramic brakes
So, in conclusion can you take it an learn a lot? Absolutely. However, for me it would be like being asked "Can you golf 18 holes without a driver and putter?" Sure... you can do it and still have fun. Just your missing out on the overall game and how it's meant to be played.
We did stay at the Ross Bridges resort. WELL WORTH the money. It's nice since the van picks you up there and takes you to Barber (about a 40 minute drive) and returns you at the end of the day. There is also a dinner that Porsche puts on a the resort end of the first day.
my wife and i are planning to go for the 2 -day course later this year ... any more insights/experience that you could share would be much appreciated ....
The courses book up faster than you think so I'd get registered ASAP. I'd stay at the resort they recommend.
Just enjoy! They are so well organized that just enjoy and savor the experience.
Interesting question. Most people that take the course are very proficient at the shifting thing. That said, as long as you can do the basics I think you can still successfully complete the course and learn A LOT!
There are 4 major places that you do exercises. One is a skid pad figure eight lesson. They use a triptronic Carrerra as they want you to concentrate on smooth trailing braking/acceleration not shifting. The second lesson is on a autocross. Here they use a triptronic Cayman or Boxster as they are asking you to concentrate on car control and transitions. The next area changes depending on the lesson. First day it was smoothness, then lane changes, etc. The second day they use it to teach heal/toe shifting. This area uses a Cayman. You can request a triptronic but that obviously negates the learnings about heal/toe.
The last area is the race track itself. If you have no problems getting the car rolling and shifting normally up to 4th gear you will not have a problem. The first day on the race track you take in only 4 gear as they are teaching you turn in points, apex points and hitting the proper exit marks. You do all of this in 4 gear and never change gears.
The second day you have team competitions in the first 3 areas (as well as take a Cayenne out into the bush - impressive vehicle) as well as learn heal/toe braking. Then on the track you apply your heal/toe learnings and shift in several corners down to 3rd. You also get some hot laps in with a CarreraS equipped with ceramic brakes
So, in conclusion can you take it an learn a lot? Absolutely. However, for me it would be like being asked "Can you golf 18 holes without a driver and putter?" Sure... you can do it and still have fun. Just your missing out on the overall game and how it's meant to be played.
We did stay at the Ross Bridges resort. WELL WORTH the money. It's nice since the van picks you up there and takes you to Barber (about a 40 minute drive) and returns you at the end of the day. There is also a dinner that Porsche puts on a the resort end of the first day.
Does this help?
This is extremely helpful info. I've been on the fence on going, not going. I wasn't sure if the course is worth the traveling and time taken off work, but after reading this, it sure sounds like it is worth it.
I'm glad you made it. You'll have to get that CS out to a DE with all that knowledge.
I get to spend 7 hours on Barber's at the next DE in June.
Hope you found our Alabama roads OK. Come back for the Master's Course.
How long did the drive take? I'm in Fort Collins and a friend and I are considering the same drive to the school in my CS.
There are many routes and times depending on what you want to see. We went from Denver to Tulsa the first day (long boring day). Then we went from Tulsa to Little Rock via the Arkansas Scenic Byway (nice twisty road), then toured the Clinton Presidential Museum. Next day went from Little Rock to Memphis and stayed near Beale street. Had some great food. Toured Graceland, etc. Next day went from Memphis to Birmingham. Took 2 day course. Left Birmingham and drove North through Kentucky and ended up on the east side of St. Louis. Following day drove to Hays, Kansas. Last day was a nice short day and I was home by noon. Had a great trip! Map it out on Google Maps and you'll get an idea of times.
I'm glad you made it. You'll have to get that CS out to a DE with all that knowledge.
I get to spend 7 hours on Barber's at the next DE in June.
Hope you found our Alabama roads OK. Come back for the Master's Course.
Roads were great. Excellent experience all around.
We are starting to roughly plan our Master's trip!
I did PSDS in Jan. I loved it. My purpose in attending was to see if I would get the DE bug and to help me with my purchase decision (6GT3 vs. CS). I got the DE bug, loved the 987 seat time, and bought a CS as I felt a 6GT3 would intimidate me. I just did my first DE this past week.
As much as PSDS is awesome and I loved the track, don't discount the value of doing PCA DE events to learn to drive your car at speed on a track. Bang for the buck they exceed PSDS imo, though it is very hard to factor in wear & tear into the cost of doing DEs. If you feel that your learning curve will be held back by driving your own car then PSDS wins hands down. I paid to lower the deductible with the insurance they offer and never thought once about the car or the cost of being there.
In the end I felt PSDS was great value for me. That includes flying there from Canada, staying at Ross Bridge, and missing 4 days of work. The instructors were great, it was safe, we went faster than I thought we would ever be allowed to, it convinced me I would enjoy lapping days as much as I thought I would, I gained a HUGE appreciation for all cars Porsche (+1 on the Cayenne both on and off-road!), and it helped me buy the right car for me.
Chris
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