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I'm thinking about putting Ferodo DS2500 pads on my CS that is mainly a daily driver, but will see an occasional track day. I understand that Pagids are the rage on this board (and I have no experience one way or another) but I am curious if anyone has experience with these pads?
I used them on several of my previous Ferraris, and I really liked several things:
1) The pad material is especially non-compressible, leading to a very firm pedal (and I have experience with everything up to and including full race pads on other cars).
2) They eliminated the fade problem I had on the track.
3) The noise (just a bit) and dust (less than stock) seemed quite acceptable.
Pads are a YMMV thing - different results for different cars - I cannot stress this enough.
Noise...feel...everything -
They are ok pads actually.
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I've don't have any experience with the 2500 pad but I used Ferodo 3000 series front pads for one DE, they stopped well and gave good feedback even on the street. I yanked them because I got heavy pad material transfer to the rotors, they also squeal horribly, they were also half used up with just one weekend. In front, I now use PFC 01 pads on the front for DEs, and Ferodo 2000 pads for the street.
(Craig, when is Pagid going to have pads for the Brembo 6 piston mono ready?)
I found pads (Pagids) and a vendor (Craig) that work for me. Call Craig and talk to him some time. I feel good about sending him my money and you will, too.
So I really have no need for Ferodo Baggins pads or whatever they are called. LOL.
Sorry for the lack of info, but I had to give Craig a plug. :-)
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Pads are a YMMV thing - different results for different cars - I cannot stress this enough.
Noise...feel...everything -
They are ok pads actually.
Agree with everything you said. The compressibility thing comes from several different websites that compare different pads. I can't really fathom that any pad material is significantly compressible.
I'd add that even different drivers in the same exact car will like different pads on the same track.
......and one thing you can bank on is OEMs wearing out in an average of 2.5 days........compare that to an average multiples of that for Pagid Yellows, and the OEMs suddently look like a very unpleasant feel as well as an expensive proposition for track use --
OEMs for the street, Yellows for the track - same compound most teams use at Daytona, LeMans....Sebring, etc
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I have used Ferodo 2500 and 3000 pads on a MINI and a Mustang. In both cases, that was the only pad available for the setup I had; otherwise, I would have used Pagids. They worked fine but were harder on the rotors than the Pagids. I found the 2500 to be only "okay" for track use; just as you'd expect from a Sport Street pad. I'd stick with OEM pads for the street.
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I loved the Ferodo 2500's on my BMW 328i. However, if you use these for a daily driver, be sure you keep your wheels cleaned regularly. If you allow the dust to build up and subsequently get wet, the stuff will bind permanently to the clear coat on your wheels! I learned this the hard way and quit using them on a daily basis, and put them on only for track use. The 3000 will be even better on the track, but worse wrt corrosive dust.
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I would watch out for pad deposits which will cause brake shudder. I have not experienced that with pagids, so I will continue down the pagid route. I will try pagid sports as my daily, and track pad soon.
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Re: the Pagid Yellows favored by many here for track duty, will I have to worry about nasty brake dust deposits on my wheels? I've had such issues with other brake pads such as Hawk Blues. The deposits are very diffifult to remove. Even after washing the wheels only a few days after the track event. Thanks!!
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Re: the Pagid Yellows favored by many here for track duty, will I have to worry about nasty brake dust deposits on my wheels? I've had such issues with other brake pads such as Hawk Blues. The deposits are very diffifult to remove. Even after washing the wheels only a few days after the track event. Thanks!!
Hawk Blues are horribly corrosive especially if the brake dust gets wet. Ruined 2 sets of rims with them in one rainy weekend and still have rust marks from them on the door sills of my M3 which I can't get off. They also shred rotors. The sparks coming off the rotors at night were impressive, however.
The Pagid yellows and blacks are nothing like that and the dust is easy to clean off.
FWIW, I saved two sets of BMW wheels that had horrible concrete dust deposits from Cobalt Friction track pads. Easy Off oven cleaner dissolved the deposits, and did no obvious damage to my silver painted factory BMW wheels (which were, of course, not on the vehicle when I did this).
This is nasty stuff, so if you try this test it first on the back side of a wheel, use gloves, do outside with good ventilation, etc.
FWIW, I saved two sets of BMW wheels that had horrible concrete dust deposits from Cobalt Friction track pads. Easy Off oven cleaner dissolved the deposits, and did no obvious damage to my silver painted factory BMW wheels (which were, of course, not on the vehicle when I did this).
This is nasty stuff, so if you try this test it first on the back side of a wheel, use gloves, do outside with good ventilation, etc.
I used the oven cleaner stuff too. (And had the chemical burns on my forearms, above the rubber gloves to prove it!) Still had to chip some of the deposit off with a screwdriver. Ended up sending the wheels off and getting them sand blasted and refinished. They look brand new now and no, I will never use Hawk pads again. The Pagid Black / Yellow dust washes off with Simple Green, a brush and a hose.
Thanks Boro and Scotty! I've been chipping away at the "concrete" brake dust using a scraper I made from a toothbrush by sawing the end off at a diagonal, sort of like a chisel. The plastic is soft. Its a slow process but it's coming. The blues are nasty and abrasive when cool but are great when hot. Trade offs I guess. I'll look for The Pagid yellows soon. Glad to hear that the dust just washes off.
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If you have to use a screwdriver (and I have) wrap the end of the blade with a single layer of cloth (I used an old t-shirt). This allows you to apply serious force but prevents scratching your wheel.