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Old 06-15-2006, 07:20 AM
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Brake / track advice please

I had a good chat today with one of the head Porsche Motorsport guys in Oz. I have booked my car in next week to have my pads changed because they are almost gone.

He recommended for track days, using orange Pagids on the front, and Blue on the rear. He said if just doing 3 lap club sprints then blue all around is fine, but if driving a 20 minute stint at a track day orange is the go as they handle the heat much better. he said that with these I will stop better, and discs will wear better because standard pads get too hot if used in this way and this causes problems. Apparently the downside is that the brakes will squeal. he also suggested racing fluid, an oil change, a 2nd chain/latch for the bonnet and fire extinguisher. Also recommended that I get the car checked out every two track days and possibly brake fuel topped up or bled to keep the pedal from going spongy.

Does this seem to you experienced folk to be good advice? He's told me 3 hours for the work. Does that seem fair?

Its going to cost a bit, as he is recommending changing pads all around. He said that if I leave the standard pads on the rear and put race pads on the front then the braking wont be consistent as brakes heat up and this wont be good.

What do you think?

How loud is the squalling?

Have any of you got this combo and how have you found it?

I also asked him in general what these sorts of track days where likely to do to my car long term. He said obviously go through pads, tyres rotors faster. Engine will be no issue for years, however driving at high revs apparently puts feul into the oil and dilutes it, so regular oil changes are recommended.

He said the main area to keep an eye on is the gear box... Dropping the clutch, burn-outs and fast gear changes are a no no if we want our gear boxes to remain pristine.

He said that he looks after Jim Richards car (one of Oz's best known racers) and apparently even in competition rallies, Jim lets his car roll off the line and then gradually put the power on rather than drop the clutch. I thikn Jim won the Targa Tasmania this year, so the extra second this would have cost him over a stage didn't affect the outcome but looks after the gear box.

I thought this was interesting and worth sharing...

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I have 4 track days and 1 autocross and roughly 3500 miles on my stock pads. I bought the GT3 RS Brake ducts from Suncoast which porvide greater cooling. I know they work because I am still at greater than 50% of the front pads left. They are easy to install too. This way I can do track events and run stock pads which cost a lot less and I don't get the squeel on the road
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I have 4 track days and 1 autocross and roughly 3500 miles on my stock pads. I bought the GT3 RS Brake ducts from Suncoast which porvide greater cooling. I know they work because I am still at greater than 50% of the front pads left. They are easy to install too. This way I can do track events and run stock pads which cost a lot less and I don't get the squeel on the road

I have 2 track days and nearly 2000 miles on my stock pads. I also bought and installed the GT3 RS brake ducts from Suncoast and I actually measured the pads before and after the track event.The pad wear front and rear was equal! It also was only 1/16 of an inch. The brake ducts work great and I am going to stay with stock pads -- they work at the track and are quiet on the street. I did put in Ate Blue fluid and bled the brakes before the track event, and my brake pedal has stayed nice and firm. I have better than 3/4 of the original pad surface remaining both in thefront and the rear, and I'm not shy about using the brakes.
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i have gt3 rs duct on my gt3 b/c i am chewing the pads and rotor like they are free. on cayman, i run stock rotor with pagid yellow RS19, 1500 track miles and 5500 street miles, i am on 2nd set of rotors and 3rd set of pagids. i use the same pagid on street, too lazy to swap them since i track every other week. they do squeal pretty loud. if you dont track very often, it's good to swap them out when you are not on track, they aren't too friendly on rotors.
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i just changed to performance friction and they are good on the track. On the street the squeel like hell.





DT, he said three hours labor to change 4 pads? I dont think so.....who can tell me about these GT3 RS Brake ducts?





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The time is to change the pads, bleed and refill the fluid, oil change and fit an extinguisher.

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I got my GT3RS brake Ducts from Suncoast Porsche. Great guys, ship right away etc. Who ever installs them simply has to trim a little plastic so the fit perfectly...its not a big deal
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DT, he said three hours labor to change 4 pads?


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huh??? i am really slow and mechanically idiotic. it takes me 45 min. to change pads on all four corners, that includes jacking the car up, taking wheels on and off. if you add cleaning up the mess i made afterwards, it will be abour an hour....
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The time is to change the pads, bleed and refill the fluid, oil change and fit an extinguisher. DT


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now that's more like it ;-)
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Are there any photos avaialble of the GT3 RS brake ducts as installed on the Cayman?

Any photos, or 'How to' on how much has to be trimed to fit the ducts?

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Well, now I can answer my own question ~ FWIW here's a visual comparison:

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