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Old 06-20-2006, 08:43 AM
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Tyre profile question

I noticed that the rear tyres on the Cayman with standard wheels are 265/40/R18

After investigating R spec tyres, I notice that most (infact all!) only come in 265/35/R18

Can someone please explain the difference, what it means, and whether or not the 35's will work on our cars?

it seems that the Dunlop Tyres, Yokahama, Pirelli etc. all have 35 profile in the 265 size?

Am I right in thinking that this mean that the tyre diameter will be different? (i.e. smaller?)

If so, what will this do to gearing and overall performance? (and speedo accuracy)
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Old 06-20-2006, 03:43 PM
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Probably the most important thing, even trumping your worries about speedo accuracy, performance, etc. is that for the electronic stuff in your drive-train and braking systems to work properly (PSM, and more importantly ABS), you need to have the tire diameters match in two ways - they should to be within about 3% tolerance of the stock diameters, and they need to be within 3% tolerance of diameter front to back. The most important one is the front-to-back tolerance. Even though you manually turn off PSM for the track or autocross, it's still lurking there, and if it senses a total dire emergency, it will activate. And, I don't think you want to go without ABS. What will happen is the computer will start throwing faults like crazy if you're out of spec, and the systems won't work correctly...

Go to tirerack.com and look at the spec for your stock tires... in the 'specs' section for each tire, they have the diameter of each tire size in inches and 10ths of inches. Do the same thing with the tires you're interested in, and do the math... if you're within that 3%, you'll probably be fine.

Believe it or not, many tires of the exact same size, say 265/35/18, but from different manufacturers, can have vastly different diameters.

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I think 5% tolerence is still fine.
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I used MPS Cups at VIR for a 3-day DE last month with no issues. Car felt great!
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In Theory: The first number on the tire spec is width in milimiters, the second is the aspect ratio: the heights of the tire thread divided by the width. The third is the rim diameter in inches.


So a 265/35/r19 is as follows 265mm X.35/25.4mm per inch = 3.652 inches tire height. The total diameter would be (3.652 inches X 2) + 19 inch rim = 26.304 inches


A 265/40/18 would be (265 * 0.40/25.* 2) +18= 26.347 inches


This is the theory . I would still go to tirerack.com or discounttire.com and check the diameters with them


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Sorry Double post

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Thanks guys.

Thats a big help.
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265/40 x 18?? Maybe in Europe, but in the US, the Porsche 'Tequipment Cayman S' pamphlet I have lists the following wheel rims & tire sizes:

OEM 18' Cayman S 'wheels with winter tires' (maybe this is a winter tire only size?):
Front 8J x 18 ET 57 235/40 R x 18
Rear 9J x 18 ET 43 255/40 R x 18
****** 19' Carrera S Wheels w/ summer tire ********
Front 8J x 19 ET 57 235/35 x ZR 19
Rear 9.5J x 19 ET 46 265/35 x ZR 19
ditto for the 19' Carrera 'Classic' and 19' SportDesign wheels

******** 19' Carrera Sport Wheel w/ summer tires (cannot be fitted w spacer)
Front 8.5J x 19 ET 55 235/35 ZR 19
Rear 10.0J x 19 ET 42 265/35 ZR 19

I guess I need to visit a local dealership to see what 18' summer rear tire size they've fitted to the cars with the base 18' wheel package.
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The Michelin PS2 (summer tyres) are 265 wide. But the most imprtant part is the profile and notice that the front and rear tyres have the same profile (40). There are no track tyres available in front and rear with the same profile, so all available track tyres for 18 inch wheels means using a tyre that is 1" less diameter than the OEM tyre. I now have track tyres and everything seems to work fine. There is visibly more space under the rear wheel arch so now I am thinking about lowering springs... Where will it end?
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