Back to the original topic. What is the worst thing about the Cayman? Well, in my opinion it's the fact that it threatens so many people in so many ways that some will go out of their way to join a fan club and bash the car to those who actually appreciate it.
Example given, dafasdadfsasdasd and Estate Wax
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The fact is when driving a Porsche Cayman it is a little embarrassing being left in the dust by far less expensive cars like the Dodge SRT-4, WRX STIs, Evos, etc. Porsche has the highest per unit profit figures in the industry and yet they chose to basically detune the Cayman so as to not challenge the 911. By using inferior gearing and omitting a LSD the Cayman was relegated to its place in the lineup, rather than improving the 911.
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If you are looking for maximum bang, get yourself a Z06. Then you can sit at home comfortably knowing that you are the king of the road and my SRT-4s or Evos will be blowing you away. Your ego seems to need that kind of validation, mine doesn't.
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The fact is Porsche is relying on brand cachet to sell cars more so than performance. The fact that Porsche is actually charging more for the Cayman model versus the Boxster convertible is somewhat outrageous as well. Hardtops cost less to make and almost all other manufacturers charge more for the convertible models.
I think it is reasonable to say that most sports car buyers are looking for some combination of value and performance.
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Wow. You're a smart guy. I never noticed this. This must be why Porsche is having such a hard time selling Caymans. Oh, wait, they continue to crush their sales forecsasts with the Cayman. Never mind.
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The fact is Porsche options cost an arm and a leg for what comes standard on comparable cars. A Porsche Cayman S with a few basic options costs almost as much as a 911 Carrera.
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My Cayman cost more than a Carrera after I optioned it out.
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The running costs are quite high for the Cayman as well. $600 oil changes/checkups and $1364 14,000 mile life N-Rated Porsche tires bite into the wallet.
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How would you know this and what is your source? If you spent any time at all reading posts here you would know that the $600 covers the entire first service, a service that is required every 20,000 miles. That's $3,000 of service required over 100,000 miles. Not bad at all. My VW required a $1,500 belt change at 80,000 and I spent way more than $1,500 on other services before that.
14,000 mile tires? I just replaced one of mine because of a puncture. It had 8,000 miles on it and in those 8,000 miles I used 2mm out of 8mm of tread. That means that those tires would have lasted me 32,000 miles before they were bald. WTF are you talking about troll?
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Out of warranty repairs are very expensive.
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Lets see. The Cayman has been out since 2006 and they all came with a 4 year warranty, so the first Cayman sold will be out of warranty in 2010. So, how do you know this?
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One also has to consider how the car will depreciate in value. It seemed the Porsche Boxster depreciated rather quickly in value. There are used 1998 Porsche Boxsters for sale here in the $12,000-$15,000 range; whereas 1998 Chevrolet Corvettes are selling for $17k-$22k. I have no reason to believe that the Cayman won't depreciate quickly as well. In my experience Porsche 911s hold their long term value better.
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And why would one have to consider this? I don't plan on selling my car, so what does depreciation matter? I buy cars to drive them, not to sell them.
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Apparently taking principled but unpopular positions gets one accused of being a troll here.
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Yup. You're right troll.
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My point was that as with Cayenne the Cayman is deviating from Porsche's racing pedigree. In my opinion, the detuned Cayman is more an exercise in luxury touring than performance. The four door Porsche Panamerica represents yet a further deviation. I fear that Porsche has gone too far astray of its values in the pursuit of slick marketing and shareholder profits.
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I would disagree in regard to the Cayman. The Cayman's mid engine platform has a lot in common with Porsche racing platforms. I don't have time to teach you the history of Porsche. Move along.
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My suggestion for would be Cayman buyers would to be lease the car as opposed to buying. Later if you find the car is for you there is always the buyout option.
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You have to be one of the stupidist people I've come accross in a long time. Why would you suggest something like that?
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Greywolf, I am happy for you that you so pleased with your car. You might have been even happier in a 911 Carrera for a similar price.
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Why?
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Grey -
911 Carrera's recommended retail price in the United States is $12,400 higher than that of the Cayman S. If you start adding basic options to the Cayman S thousands start to disappear. The 911 Carrera comes with more standard options than the Cayman and is worth consideration for a potential buyer.
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Please tell me what standard options the 911 has that make it soooooo much better.
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Lack of a sunroof/moonroof option.
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I don't want a sunroof. They do nothing but make wind noise and weaken the chassis.
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Having overly aggressive and poorly skilled PCA members damage your car at track events.
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This is a Cayman attribute why?
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Ticket magnet for local law enforcement who target Porsches.
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Yeah, OK, keep on telling yourself that one Sparky.
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Having your car keyed repeatedly in parking lots.
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That's caused by the fact that you're an *sshole, not because you drive a Cayman.
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Poor reliability. Long waits for parts. Porsche seems more concerned about selling cars than pleasing existing customers.
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That's not my experience.
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Lack of a spare tire or runflats. God help you if you get a sidewall puncture somewhere without cell phone reception. You could be waiting two weeks just to get replacement tires.
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OK, I might agree with this one. I wish the car had a spare.
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High insurance cost.
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Wrong again, but you must be used to that. My Cayman was surprisingly cheap to insure. I still can't believe how low my insurance rates are. I asked my insurance agent why this is the case. He told me that the Cayman and Cayman S are rated as a very low risk car. The risk of the car is assertained by looking at many factors including it's design and the target drivers. By design, the Cayman has a lot of safety features including 6 airbags, Stability Control, ABS, and so on. This makes the car very safe.
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Awkward looking with a mounted front US license plate.
Thin soft paint clear coat that wears quickly.
Porsche doesn't offer autobahn paint matched blindspot mirrors from the factory despite the large blindspot.
When you crash that left hand ignition key tears into your knee cap.
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And everyone knows that your left knee is so much more painful than your right.
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Porsche purposely makes their cars hard for the enthusiast to work on.
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What is so hard to work on? And what has Porsche done to make it hard to work on?
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On the track if you run the gas tank too low the car goes into fuel starvation mode and locks up even with a gallon of gas left. You end up needing the car towed to the dealer.
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What kind of fool would try to run through high G turns with only a gallon of fuel left anyway? I mean any real enthusiast knows that this will result in fuel starvation that could lean the mixture and cause significant engine damage.
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KS-CS,
It is pretty sad you have to attack anyone who states their personal opinion about your beloved car. Only a fool believes a car is totally without faults. There is always room for improvement.
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You come here to troll, get banned, then sign in with a new name, pick up your fight and then call us fools. Haa haaaaaa...... You're a funny guy..... That's a good one......