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Old 03-03-2006, 02:27 PM
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Porsche is last in reliability (read: Cayenne)

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Consumer Reports' largest Annual Car Reliability Survey ranks Lexus in first place for predicted reliability of its 2006 models among 36 nameplates from domestic, European, and Asian automakers. Lexus was in second place last year behind Scion in CR's survey. Honda moved into second place, from fifth, and Toyota remained unchanged in third place. Mitsubishi ranked fourth, up from seventh overall, and Subaru ranked in fifth place, down one in the standings from last year.


Predicted reliability for both Mercury and Mazda models moved sharply higher. Mercury is now ranked in eighth place, up from 16th last year; it's the only domestic manufacturer to break into the top-10 in the standings. Mazda was up eight places as well and finished in ninth, behind Mercury.


Infiniti, which has traditionally been known for making vehicles with outstanding reliability, plunged 20 places in the standings, dropping to 28th from eighth. Its QX56 was the most unreliable vehicle among new cars. Scion dropped from first place last year to seventh this year. Volvo moved up 10 places to 12th overall, and Mini moved up eighteen places, to 11th overall. Among domestic manufacturers, Chevrolet dropped to 24th, down from 13th last year. Chrysler moved up to 15th place from 20th in 2005, and Jeep dropped five places to 19th. Ford dropped to 16th place from 15th, and Dodge moved up three places to 18th overall.


Porsche placed dead last in the rankings, at 36th overall, down from 26th last year based solely on the problematic Cayenne SUV.


Predicted reliability findings and a five-year reliability trend story are published in Consumer Reports' Annual April Auto Issue, which goes on sale beginning Tuesday, March 7. The Auto Issue will be available wherever magazines are sold and may also be ordered online at http://www.ConsumerReports.org'source=CR70.


Free highlights from the April Auto Issue are available at http://www.ConsumerReports.org/autos2006'source=CR71.


Survey Milestone: Data on More than One Million Vehicles


Findings are based on Consumer Reports' Annual Car Reliability Survey, which was conducted in 2005 and included subscribers to CR and its web site, http://www.ConsumerReports.org. This year, the survey reached a milestone as CR gathered reliability information on just over one million vehicles in total. The survey was conducted in the spring of 2005 and covered 1998 to 2005 models. The total number of vehicles included is up from 810,000 in 2004 and 675,000 in 2003. (Consumer Reports has a total of roughly six million paid subscribers to its magazine and web site.) Early survey findings were released in one of Consumer Reports' special automotive publications, New Car Preview 2006, last October.


In the 2005 reliability survey, subscribers were asked to report any serious problems (because of cost, failure, safety, or downtime) they have experienced with their cars, vans, SUVs, or trucks during the previous 12 months. The survey covers 17 different trouble areas, ranging from the engine and transmission to body hardware and electrical systems for vehicles up to eight years old. The responses allow CR to present detailed reliability ratings for 1998 through 2005 models and to predict reliability for 2006 models. CR also uses the predicted reliability rating in determining which vehicles to recommend to its subscribers.


Five-year Reliability Trend Analysis: Hitting a Plateau?


The shifts in nameplate rankings for predicted reliability came during a period in which industry-wide progress in lowering new-car problem rates appears to have stalled.


Consumer Reports' analysis of its 2001 to 2005 Annual Car Reliability Surveys for the past five years shows that overall problem rates have reached a plateau for newer cars-especially for the Asian manufacturers (those from Japan and Korea). CR's latest subscriber survey shows that Japanese and Korean manufacturers still have the fewest problems on average: 12 problems per 100 vehicles. This number, however, has held steady for the newest models since 2002, when they improved from 15 problems per 100 in the previous year. On average, Asian vehicles are still by far the most reliable, but their rate of improvement has slowed.


U.S. makes had been edging closer to the Asians in reliability, but they, too, have stalled. In the most recent survey, domestic makes had an average problem rate of 18 problems per 100 vehicles, not that different from last year's rate of 17 per 100. The rate has been about the same since 2003.


European makes, which have recently been the most unreliable overall, remained steady at 21 problems per 100 vehicles. They have had either 20 or 21 problems per 100 vehicles in each of the past four years.


Using the data from the past five surveys, Consumer Reports' team of statisticians and analysts also compared how the vehicle lines from six major manufacturers - Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, Honda, Toyota, and Volkswagen - fared over time. CR combined manufacturers' problem rates for 1-year-old vehicles from each survey year and did the same for 2-year-old vehicles, 3-year-old vehicles, and so on.


CR found that Toyota and Honda models have significantly fewer problems than cars from other manufacturers. Overall, 8-year-old Toyotas are about as reliable as 3-year-old Fords and Chryslers and 2-year-old Volkswagens. Toyotas have about half the problems of Volkswagens when new and only a quarter of the problems when five years old.


On average, 5-year-old Asian vehicles had 44 problems per 100 vehicles; American, 89 per 100; and European, 97 per 100.


Among the U.S. automakers, Ford consistently showed lower problem rates than Chrysler and GM for older vehicles.
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Well - at least my Land Rover is on now par with the Cayenne - no point trading 'up' to it! ==RedEye
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Consumer Reports has always been a homer for Japanese cars....nothing new to see here folks, keep moving.............................
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It's true. I bought a new CayenneS - an early 2003, and I was at the dealership every other month. Took 18 months and 7 visits to fix the left front headlight - no kidding. But it was an awesome vehicle and I would buy another. You just don't want to own one OUT of warranty...
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:13 PM
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<hr style="width: 100%; height: 2px;" />I am looking at both the Cayenne and the Cayman. My wife wants the Cayenne S, but after reading the Consumer Report yesterday, I was a little reluctant to purchase the car. However, if headlights and minor rattles are the only concern, and not the major components like the engine, transmission, electronics and such, then I'm not that concern given how beautiful the Cayenne is, and how great it handles as a SUV.
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Hey Investor - it wasn't just the headlight, it was switches, trim pieces, NAV system, Bose, remote DVD, Porsche Drive, dash rattle... But if you buy a new one and live fairly close to the dealer then go for it - it's a real Porsche and drives like no other SUV.
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:41 AM
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Hey Investor - it wasn't just the headlight, it was switches, trim pieces, NAV system, Bose, remote DVD, Porsche Drive, dash rattle... But if you buy a new one and live fairly close to the dealer then go for it - it's a real Porsche and drives like no other SUV.
I wouldn't call Porsche's SUV a true porsche... more of a cash cow to support the cars. Afterall, it is heavily based on the Toureg. Hopefully, Porsche's next Cayenne will be more true to Porsche. The market is growing for the super-SUV segment (MB's AMG SUVs, for example)
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Old 03-06-2006, 09:46 AM
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Crazy - based on the VW? Isn't it the other way around? Have you owned a Cayenne? Driven it for 3 years in all kinds of weather and road conditions?
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^^Seeing how I'm 16 and techically haven't driven a car as of yet (getting training next month) I have to say...no. But first of all, I see everyone driving Cayennes - most of them not necessarily car enthueists (pardon my spelling) unlike the iconic 911 and the Cayman. And I believe the Cayenne came after the VW. Remember Porsche has built nothing close to SUVs before the controversial Cayenne, while VW had for several SUVs and off-road vehicles before-hand. Also, Porsche is the one that had an interest in VW, and the Cayenne (from platform-sharing) was it's brain-child. To me, it would be strange to believe a newcomer (Porsche) would create a SUV for VW, which built SUVs for a while now (microbus, 'dune buggy' Beetle, etc.)
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Had a Cayenne for a year, LOVED it. Not a single problem; towing a 6,5OO lb Grady White the whole time. The Cayenne is awsome in my experience. IMHO the Cayenne is PURE Porsche.
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Old 03-07-2006, 02:42 AM
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You bet Chance-pure Porsche. And the VW came out after the Cayenne -- and doesn't measure up to it and it is not supposed to. The Cayenne has also won numerous accolades which you can reference at the Porsche web site.
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