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So first off yesterday was 90 days on the day I've had the Cayman. I am coming home from a friends house and I am slowly go through 2nd gear. I bring it close to 7k RPM's before I shift. I do not recall hitting the rev limiter. But as I went to shift into 3rd, the car would not let me. I got an error message on the screen saying ! PSM Error !
Luckily I was going about 65 and was able to coast aways into a Park, parking lot. Where I turned the car off and let it sit a moment. Once the car was turned off I was able to put it into gear. Then when I tried to start it again in gear it acted like the clutch was not pushed in and the car lurched forward and would not start. If I leave the car in netrual the car will start. But it will not no matter what I do go into gear when the car is on. If I turn the car off it will go through the gears fine.
Very very strange and very very disapointing. It's a 3 day weekend and I had plans to drive from Phoenix to Sacremento on Tuesday.
I have to say Porsche road side assistance was awesome... She asked me several times if I was in danger or hurt, or even if I needed someone to bring water since I am in Arizona. The tow truck got to me with in 25 minutes of being called. I am stuck waiting to bring the car in to the dealer until tomorrow since its a holiday today.
Has anyone else had this happen? I was thinking I could pull the cable off the batter and re-set the car. But that did not work either and the car is sadly sitting in the garge.
PSM - Porsche Stability Management
While it can’t overcome the laws of physics, the revolutionary Porsche Stability Management (PSM) system does lend an added degree of balance and control to the Cayman’s mid-engine driving dynamics, inspiring surefooted confidence in corners and extreme situations.
A standard feature on the Cayman and Cayman S, PSM continuously monitors steering input, road speed, yaw velocity and lateral acceleration to calculate the actual direction of travel. If the car begins to steer off line, PSM instantly intervenes with precision brake inputs on individual wheels to help bring the car back onto the driver’s intended path.
If braking alone isn’t enough to correct the vehicle’s cornering line, PSM then calls on the Cayman’s engine management system, adjusting engine output as needed to help stabilize handling. PSM can also compensate in an instant for mid-corner changes in load resulting from deceleration or braking. When Sport mode is selected with the optional Sport Chrono Package, PSM’s threshold for intervention is raised, allowing for greater driver involvement. If you prefer driving without automatic PSM assistance, the system can be set to standby at any time. In this case, it will only intervene under heavy braking, where both front wheels exceed the ABS threshold.
For all of its technical ability, PSM goes virtually unnoticed in everyday driving situations, preserving the Cayman’s natural agility.
Last edited by Y-DesygnGuy; 05-28-2008 at 12:29 AM.
Reason: **The title of the thread should be changed to a Clutch issue not the PSM***
what part of PSM affects the gear box i wonder, things like unable to get in gears usually means a faulty clutch or gear box, maybe the clutch is not disengaging cleanly.
there is some issues discussed on this forum regarding the caymans clutch, you should search and look it up and see if that helps.
PSM - Porsche Stability Management
While it can’t overcome the laws of physics, the revolutionary Porsche Stability Management (PSM) system does lend an added degree of balance and control to the Cayman’s mid-engine driving dynamics, inspiring surefooted confidence in corners and extreme situations.
A standard feature on the Cayman and Cayman S, PSM continuously monitors steering input, road speed, yaw velocity and lateral acceleration to calculate the actual direction of travel. If the car begins to steer off line, PSM instantly intervenes with precision brake inputs on individual wheels to help bring the car back onto the driver’s intended path.
If braking alone isn’t enough to correct the vehicle’s cornering line, PSM then calls on the Cayman’s engine management system, adjusting engine output as needed to help stabilize handling. PSM can also compensate in an instant for mid-corner changes in load resulting from deceleration or braking. When Sport mode is selected with the optional Sport Chrono Package, PSM’s threshold for intervention is raised, allowing for greater driver involvement. If you prefer driving without automatic PSM assistance, the system can be set to standby at any time. In this case, it will only intervene under heavy braking, where both front wheels exceed the ABS threshold.
For all of its technical ability, PSM goes virtually unnoticed in everyday driving situations, preserving the Cayman’s natural agility.
Thanks Looper I have a feeling its something with the cluth also. I am not sure why the screen is telling me PSM Error. But it will not no matter what I try go into gear when the car is running.
PSM - Porsche Stability Management
While it can’t overcome the laws of physics, the revolutionary Porsche Stability Management (PSM) system does lend an added degree of balance and control to the Cayman’s mid-engine driving dynamics, inspiring surefooted confidence in corners and extreme situations.
A standard feature on the Cayman and Cayman S, PSM continuously monitors steering input, road speed, yaw velocity and lateral acceleration to calculate the actual direction of travel. If the car begins to steer off line, PSM instantly intervenes with precision brake inputs on individual wheels to help bring the car back onto the driver’s intended path.
If braking alone isn’t enough to correct the vehicle’s cornering line, PSM then calls on the Cayman’s engine management system, adjusting engine output as needed to help stabilize handling. PSM can also compensate in an instant for mid-corner changes in load resulting from deceleration or braking. When Sport mode is selected with the optional Sport Chrono Package, PSM’s threshold for intervention is raised, allowing for greater driver involvement. If you prefer driving without automatic PSM assistance, the system can be set to standby at any time. In this case, it will only intervene under heavy braking, where both front wheels exceed the ABS threshold.
For all of its technical ability, PSM goes virtually unnoticed in everyday driving situations, preserving the Cayman’s natural agility.
Has zero to do with the PSM Error, not sure why it displayed that. But the problem with the gears and the clutch was... The spring inside the clutch broke!! Get this, I am being told there is not a single replacement one in the United States. I will find out tomorrow if any where ordered for the states and my dealer can get one. Other wise I am stuck waiting for them to order one from Germany. A good 2 weeks before I get the car back!!!
3 months old, 4,000 miles and I get this kind of problem???
What really gets me... My dealership does not give me another Porsche to drive while mine is dead, oh no! I get sent to Hertz and offered a Pontiac G6!!! Thats what the dealership is willing to do... Pretty lame!! I went from a Infiniti G35 to this Porsche and even when I had the oil changed in the G35 I got another G35 for a loaner. I am paying an extra $20 a day to have a convertible Mini Cooper. I have to say I am less than thrilled with North Scottsdale Porsche.
PSM - Porsche Stability Management
While it can’t overcome the laws of physics, the revolutionary Porsche Stability Management (PSM) system does lend an added degree of balance and control to the Cayman’s mid-engine driving dynamics, inspiring surefooted confidence in corners and extreme situations.
A standard feature on the Cayman and Cayman S, PSM continuously monitors steering input, road speed, yaw velocity and lateral acceleration to calculate the actual direction of travel. If the car begins to steer off line, PSM instantly intervenes with precision brake inputs on individual wheels to help bring the car back onto the driver’s intended path.
If braking alone isn’t enough to correct the vehicle’s cornering line, PSM then calls on the Cayman’s engine management system, adjusting engine output as needed to help stabilize handling. PSM can also compensate in an instant for mid-corner changes in load resulting from deceleration or braking. When Sport mode is selected with the optional Sport Chrono Package, PSM’s threshold for intervention is raised, allowing for greater driver involvement. If you prefer driving without automatic PSM assistance, the system can be set to standby at any time. In this case, it will only intervene under heavy braking, where both front wheels exceed the ABS threshold.
For all of its technical ability, PSM goes virtually unnoticed in everyday driving situations, preserving the Cayman’s natural agility.
What really gets me... My dealership does not give me another Porsche to drive while mine is dead, oh no! I get sent to Hertz and offered a Pontiac G6!!! Thats what the dealership is willing to do... Pretty lame!! I went from a Infiniti G35 to this Porsche and even when I had the oil changed in the G35 I got another G35 for a loaner. I am paying an extra $20 a day to have a convertible Mini Cooper. I have to say I am less than thrilled with North Scottsdale Porsche.
Well, Penske is not too bad, they own the dealership HBL Merc, Audi, and Porsche in VA. At least they provide me with a loaner for free even though I did not buy my CS from them.
My closest dealer, Rockville Porsche, Audi is a joke. They refuse to provide anyone with a "free" loaner if you did not buy a car from them. You don't have to be the smartest tool in the shed to figure out which dealer I will go to for service/maintenance.
Back when I had a Chrysler Crossfire, every owner got a free loaner no matter what Chrysler dealer you took it to, nationwide. That car cost 33K. My CS costs more than double that and I would get shafted by Porsche everytime if it wasn't for HBL.
I got a call today and they are replacing the entire clutch now. I was told either by Saturday or first of next week before its back to me. I believe now I have to break the car in all over again with the new clutch.
I got a call today and they are replacing the entire clutch now. I was told either by Saturday or first of next week before its back to me. I believe now I have to break the car in all over again with the new clutch.
Why? Break-in is for the engine components to seat properly with each other, not the clutch. You don't break in a car all over again when you replace a worn clutch, why would you need to in this case?
Why? Break-in is for the engine components to seat properly with each other, not the clutch. You don't break in a car all over again when you replace a worn clutch, why would you need to in this case?
Ummm. Yes you should break in a new clutch. I would take it easy for about 500 miles. If you dump it too early you can glaze the pads and the disc and have a prematurely slipping clutch with plenty of material on it. Not a good thing.
Yeah I figured I should take it easy on the clutch to begin with. Not like I race the car or anything, but I do enjoy running the gears out.
I got the car back Friday late afternoon. First thing I noticed was my steering wheel was not centered it was slightly turned to the right. If I straighten the wheel then I turn to the left of course. The other thing I noticed was my exhaust tips are down and over the left now.
I walked right back in and asked what was going on with these two items. I was told they didn't do anything to the steering wheel. No idea what I am talking about, I said come look for yourself! It was not this way before I brought the car in what gives? Also what is the deal with my exhaust looking this way. The answers to my questions were... They did nothing to the steering wheel it had to of been that way before. I said really? The car has 4000 miles on it, 3 months old I did not drive off the lot with it this way!! As far as the exhaust goes... They said its an aftermarket exhaust and the Service tech was not sure how to put it back on properly and they did the best they could. I had a look of its a B&B/APR system and it bolts right into the same locations the stock one did. So now I have to schedule time to get back into B&B and have them help me with it.
Over all experience with Porsche of North Scottsdale thumbs down! I am hoping I get a call to give a survey on my experience and I am going to have no problem telling them exactly what I thought about all of it.
Until 
