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Old 10-22-2007, 08:38 PM
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gforce dyno chart

So I finally did my dyno day
No before/after mods pulls, nothing but MY OWN baseline before I play around with other mods in the near future!
Edit: Even more important, result not to be used to proof that the IPD plenum does deliver performance! Thanks.

After searching for quite some time now and talking to many people in my area, I finally decided which dyno facility to use.
The criteria for me was simple, I wanted a new(er) and accurate dyno, preferably a Dyno Jet.
During the last 2 weeks I heard of a few results from other dyno facilities which made me wait, I mean, I don’t want to see a
300 rwhp result (on a bone stock Cayman S), but also not a 240 (or less!). I want a real good and true result, and a facility I
can go back to anytime due to the fact that I can trust the operator who understands what they are doing and not wasting
my time. I had a hard time finding one! So I called the guys and RSS to check where they have their cars and mods tested.
They spoke very highly about GT PRO in Fullerton CA (Well, I was hoping for a facility closer to where I live, but I guess can’t
have it all). Called em up, spoke to Brian (extremely nice guy) and scheduled a session for Saturday for me and another CS owner.

Here the result (the blue graphs only!) of my ’06 Cayman S

STD correction factor (what most shops use) and *smoothing* to level 5 which lowers the HP number but
in my opinion is a better way to read the graph.
(Edit: The red graphs is a bone stock Cayman S they ran as well... Please, don't use as a
comparission against my modified car in any way! We all know that results differ from car to car!)

We did 4 pulls total, all came in very close. The best results were the last two ones with 286 rwhp (about
337 at the crank) and 244 torque. I didn’t see reason to post a graph with all runs since you almost can’t
tell anymore which one is which. I am pretty happy with the results, considering all my mods so far didn’t
really cost me an arm and a leg altogether.

Mods:
V-Flow & de-Snork
B&B exhaust
IPD plenum & throttle body
Softronic
(No aftermarket headers/cats)

Btw, my friends Cayman S with a Porsche sports exhaust and the IPD plenum came in at 276 rwhp (His car
also has the stock air filter and is not de-snorked). Great result, he was very happy with it.


Again, thanks to Brian at GT PRO, the owner who also operated the dyno! Nice work.

Cheers!


My car resting between pulls…

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Old 10-22-2007, 08:47 PM
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gforce,

Where did the stock CS number originate?

According to PCA cars from the factory can vary as much as 5% in HP output (~15 HP).

While it looks like your car is generating significant HP (congratulations!), it is still necessary to see this comparison on a like car basis, if for no other reason than to remove the speculation.

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gforce,

Where did the stock CS number originate?

According to PCA cars from the factory can vary as much as 5% in HP output (~15 HP).

While it looks like your car is generating significant HP (congratulations!), it is still necessary to see this comparison on a like car basis, if for no other reason than to remove the speculation.

Cheers,
The stock CS was dynoed at GT PRO

Just to make this clear, I did this for me, to have MY baseline, as stated and I am sharing in here. Nothing more ;-)
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What do I see when I look at these charts....? A couple of things.

The first is the fact that the 'stock' torque fell off like a brick after about 6,200 RPMs, versus your cars nice extension past 7,000 RPMs. This looks dramatic and makes you wonder if they kept the stock Cayman pegged. But it does make sense. The exhaust and intake mods that you've done will provide the most benefit in the high RPM neighborhood, so I'd say that's an incredible improvement and consistent with your mods.

The next thing that I notice is a dramatic drop in the torque of your modified car from 4,700 RPM to about 5,600 RPM. What could be causing that? My guess, the elimination of the distribution flap on the 2 stage resonant intake system. It just so happens that the resonant flap is programmed to open at exactly 4,700 RPM. My guess is that since the first circuit of the 2 stage intake has been removed, the 2nd circuit is all messed up.
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Nice work g-force, it is great to see the testing imfo you posted on three Caymans.

The gains of 31HP and 26lbs torque with your Cayman S are some real nice increase.

The Cayman S with the only performance mod being the IPD plenum reporting 277 RWHP is a 21 RWHP ( 24 FWHP ) gain over the stock Cayman you tested.

I quess this stacks up just like you have been telling us all for months that the IPD plenum really is an outstanding modification for the Cayman.
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Looks good to me. I plan on making the plenum my next mod at some point in time. Thanks for sharing!
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Nice work g-force, it is great to see the testing imfo you posted on three Caymans.

The gains of 31HP and 26lbs torque with your Cayman S are some real nice increase.

The Cayman S with the only performance mod being the IPD plenum reporting 277 RWHP is a 21 RWHP ( 24 FWHP ) gain over the stock Cayman you tested.

I quess this stacks up just like you have been telling us all for months that the IPD plenum really is an outstanding modification for the Cayman.
Did I miss something? Is there a dyno run on a car that has the IPD plenum, a before and after?
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The next thing that I notice is a dramatic drop in the torque of your modified car from 4,700 RPM to about 5,600 RPM.
I take this in your opinion dramatic drop (which is actually almost parallel to the stock line!) from my almost 257 torque over 212 (diff 45!) at 4,700 rpm every night and day.
What I also see is a nice zickzack on the stock car starting at about 5,300 not even breaking the 220 line and falling even further right after, while mine already improves and moves up nicely to almost 240 before 5,600 rpm… not? Maybe I am reading it wrong.

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The stock CS was dynoed at GT PRO

Just to make this clear, I did this for me, to have MY baseline, as stated and I am sharing in here. Nothing more ;-)
gforce,

I can accept that you are trying to get a new baseline for your car. Unfortunately, you also draw comparisons to a "stock" car in putting an exclamation on your HP gains, including your statement of support for the plenums contribution.

With all do respect (I enjoyed our conversation at Mike's); this is not accurate and frankly misleading.

Remember, performance can vary significantly among like vehicles, so if you are going to post your "baseline" I suggest you remove the "stock" car line from the chart.

I believe the only way that a comparison is valid is if it is done on the same car with the same dyno. This should not be hard to do if the demand for the plenum is so high. I imagine that RSS and others would be more than happy to pay for these tests to prove the apparent point.

I do hope to see at you at future events where you can put this HP to a test.

Cheers,