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1. Turbo for $ 13K -- out the door price -- only 5lbs pres. added; 1 year warranty
2. X51 for $ 29K -- out the door price -- naturally aspirated; 2 year warranty; can add super charger....
Am going to test drive both in the next 30 days
TPC Racing
TPC Racing is taking pre orders now. Cayman club members can pre order with no deposit!
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1. Turbo for $ 13K -- out the door price -- only 5lbs pres. added; 1 year warranty
2. X51 for $ 29K -- out the door price -- naturally aspirated; 2 year warranty; can add super charger....
Am going to test drive both in the next 30 days
Yes, it's enough to drive you crazy trying to decide. I suppose X51 would be the most reliable, but not quite as much power as turbocharging. I guess the question to ask would be the differences in performance between the options.
Does any one out there have any idea how significant the difference would be in the performance of a Cayman S with: 3.8L X51 vs. TPC turbo vs. supercharged 997 motor? I know this is a difficult estimate to make.
If I do one of these, I would definitely plan on keeping the car for a while. I would just love for my CS to have the performance it ought to have instead of the performance Porsche marketing has determined it should have.
TPC Racing
TPC Racing is taking pre orders now. Cayman club members can pre order with no deposit!
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Of course, just about the time I would get my CS back after spending the bucks to do one of these significant engine mods, Porsche would spring a turbo Cayman on us.
Of course, just about the time I would get my CS back after spending the bucks to do one of these significant engine mods, Porsche would spring a turbo Cayman on us.
I'd like to believe in Santa Claus too, but that's not going to happen.
Check out AutobahnAmbitionMag.com...it has a good article on the TPC kit. At only 5 lbs of boost, there's not that much stress on the engine.
TPC Racing
TPC Racing is taking pre orders now. Cayman club members can pre order with no deposit!
please email: sales@tpcracing.net This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it for more information.
Please include "Cayman Turbo info - your name" in the subject line as we have received many inquires already. In the email body please include name, daytime and/or mobile phone number, fax number and your preferred email address.
After thinking about this 1000 times, Tach and Sleeper did this... in the correct order... If the turbo does stress the engine a little, let it die an earlier death, then do the swap....all in all, not a bad financial option when considering trade-ins, depreciation and sales tax to try to keep up with new....... $ 42,000 plus base car cost over 5 years vs cost of 997 turbo .... all the while, dragging the tail
The first customer car is a carmona red, still at the shop. It was there weeks before my mine so its easy to assume its one of theirs too.
That 1st customer car (Carmona Red) has been at TPC so long because it has been used with the owner's consent as a development test bed since he wanted the "full monty" and is willing to pay the price in both time and money. There have been extensive dyno runs to compare and optimize all the components. The car has also been used for instructional/promotional photos and videos.
It arrived w/a Softronic flash which is now gone. Among the other improvements are a LWF and tweaks to its PSS9 suspension. It already had a Quaife TBD. A factory aero kit and body painted wing were added. The last dyno sheet I saw was 417 to the wheels with the stock headers. A bit more HP is likely.
Delivery should be in the next couple of weeks with a track testing opportunity shortly thereafter.
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Originally Posted by TurboElise
The problem with all of this is that the car now has lost its warranty ... . The only way you get some real money back
The car doesn't lose its warranty unless the problem is related to the mod. I.e., if a head gasket blows it likely won't be covered, but if the ACC malfunctions it should be covered.
I doubt anyone contemplating this mod expects to "get some real money back." It's an expenditure for the owner's enjoyment, not an investment. The same can be said about buying a Cayman. The ROI is measured by the size of the smile it brings every time you light it up.
LSD - Limited Slip Differential
A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
To see the installation of a Quaife LSD/TBD unit Click Here
Softronic
SOFTRONIC produces DME programming and hardware to suit your companies specifications. Our current software suite is a complex matched set of programs housed in a Flash Manager and Flash Client. This software is matched with two cables, an End User and Master Cable. The SOFTRONIC proprietary flashing solution outperforms all other combinations in speed and accuracy including the factory Porsche equipment.
Bilstein
A corporate restructuring of August Bilstein GmbH of Ennepetal, Germany took place in 1988 with the purchase of the company by Hoesch AG. A subsequent merger of the Hoesch Group with Fried. Krupp AG in 1992 established the parent conglomerate Fried. Krupp AG Hoesch-Krupp. In 1999 Fried. Krupp AG Hoesch-Krupp merged with Thyssen AG to form ThyssenKrupp Automotive Group. Bilstein is now a wholly-owned subsidiary company of the ThyssenKrupp Automotive Group.
The group is a primary supplier to the automotive industry and, with their other subsidiaries, cover a wide spectrum of manufacturing from steel production to automation and communications technology among others. The amount of information and technology available to a company of this size is formidable and create an excellent basis for present and future product development including Bilstein suspension components.
TPC Racing
TPC Racing is taking pre orders now. Cayman club members can pre order with no deposit!
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These are all good points. If we are really worried about reliability, we shouldn't be adding a turbocharger in the first place. It sounds like the turbocharger is the best bang for the buck. An X51 swap won't give near the same amount of power, and a 997 with supercharger motor swap may give similar power but is going to cost a lot of bucks. Am I correct? Please let me know, I really would like to know.
I have scheduled a time to test drive one of their cars in several weeks.
1. They are in the process of finishing 3 more cars -- will be returned to their owners next week.
2. The plenum they use for the turbo install is a standard Porsche part -- and is used for ease of installation and service -- , nothing else...again, Tom says the plenum adds nothing with respect to power.
3. For what it is worth, Tom has checked into the x51 swap with other race team/retailers... and without getting into all the details, you end up with considerably less power then advertised when they put the 3.8 liter engine into a Cayman S...Many other people in this club are better versed in this subject than I. He challenges us to find dynos after the swap is made without adding further mods. The AWP he quoted is so low, that I will not repeat....Checked with another well know dealer/race team -- said they would not perform the x51 swap -- not much net benefit -- poor fit -- etc... What do I know...
Plenum
The plenum is the piece that goes between the Cayman throttle body and the intake runners. The factory piece is a long black plastic tube with a divider down the middle. There are aftermarket replacements which are designed to allow the air to flow easier/faster into the engine and increase horsepower and torque.
TPC Racing
TPC Racing is taking pre orders now. Cayman club members can pre order with no deposit!
please email: sales@tpcracing.net This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it for more information.
Please include "Cayman Turbo info - your name" in the subject line as we have received many inquires already. In the email body please include name, daytime and/or mobile phone number, fax number and your preferred email address.
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