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Old 04-20-2008, 01:32 AM
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Avic D3 Self Install

This is my report on the installation of the Pioneer Avic D3. This particular unit has been installed by many others, but it seems that each successive person is able to learn from the others install and maybe it will be easier for them. So, here is what I did and maybe it will help others with the same install or with the install of something similar. The tools you should need should be limited to metric and standard allen wrenches as well as a torx set of wrenches and various sizes of screw drivers.

The first thing I did was to install a rear view camera. I chose the Boyo VTL300.
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The camera is nicely integrated into a license plate frame. For the install of this part, I followed facelvega’s install tips. No need to remove the bumper or bumperette’s. Very easy. Next you need to route the wires to the front of the car to attach them to the head unit. You will need to remove/loosen some carpeting and a few trim pieces.
Remove this plastic piece and this piece of carpet.
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Remove this trim piece by unscrewing the 2 screws and then pulling up. The clips will make a bad sound when they come up.
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Next you need to pull up on the seat belt cap. It just unsnaps. You also need to loosen the restraining bar. It would help to take it all the way off but I couldn’t get one of the screws out.
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Pull out the rubber door seal. This will allow you to get behind the carpet next to it.
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Lastly, pull up the trim in the door. It just pops straight up and makes the same awful noise. You can disconnect the wire harness underneath.
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:36 AM
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The last 3 photos have also indicated the path that my rear view camera wires ran as they went to the front of the car. I used a combination of a coat hanger and some string to route the wires under all the carpet and trim pieces. Maybe 30 minutes to do this. You also need to route your Reverse Sense wire with the camera wires. It connects to a wire in the tail light. You can find that particular wire in someone else’s install.

Lastly, you will need to remove the fuse box cover and carpet so you can route the wires behind that. Now you will have your wires at the front of the car.

I did not want the GPS and XM antennas exposed so I decided to mount them underneath the windshield wiper cowl. Remove the battery cover and take off the two plastic pieces beside it. Remove the battery. There is a flat metal area next to the cabin air filter. The antennas are magnetic, so I stuck them there. Then I routed the wires to my right trying to avoid running the wires over anything that might rub or abrade the wires.
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There is a rubber grommet behind the battery.
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There is nothing on the other side of this grommet that you could damage unless you tried to push a crowbar through it. Just make a little hole and you can run the antenna connection through here and you will be directly behind the stereo. Others have used the grommet near the clutch pedal, but there are so many wires going through there that I did not feel comfortable trying to cut through this grommet for my new wires.

Now for the iPod wire, I wanted to put it in the glove box in the useless CD holder thingy. So you need to take out the glove box. Start by opening it and then underneath, there will be 2 silver screws that hold the cup holder contraption in place. These are a bitch to get out. I believe they are #25 hex screws but it is very difficult work a screwdriver in there. I ended up sticking the hex screw bit up there and turning it with a pair of pliers. Once you pull that out, you can start removing all the screws that hold the glove box in. There are probably 12 or more. I think you have to pop out a little piece of trim on the right end of the dashboard. Once it comes out, there are a couple of electrical connections you can undo so that you can work freely on the glovebox. There are 2 screws holding the CD holder in place. Once it is out, there are little “releases” on the side to pop out the things that actually hold the CD’s. Then you are left with a couple of springs in the bottom of this “cassette”. I just pulled them out with a pair of needle nose pliers. Drill a hold in the back of the cassette and run your iPod cable through. Reinstall.

I stuck the Bluetooth module behind the A/C control unit and I put the XM module up in a pocket that is located in the upper right hand side of the passenger footwell. The wires that connect all these things together were just tucked behind the carpet.

Now to the actual stereo. I HIGHLY recommend both the trim package and the canbus package from ebay. If you order, ask them for an invoice and they will combine shipping saving you $35. The directions will come in Japanese. Gogoallen had these translated in one of his posts. Basically, you just need to match the colors of the install kit wiring harness to the colors of the wires for the Avic wiring harness. They all match up. I believe there was an error in gogoallens translation of the canbus harness. I did not follow it exactly. I just kept matching up wire colors and I think I did not use 1 of the wires on the canbus harness.

Now you need to get your old stereo out. Follow K-man’s article on the PCM install. There are 4 black bolts that hold the stereo in. K-man talks about a very difficult method or turning them and holding down some lever at the same time and made it a 2 person job. Just simply turn them with an allen wrench and the stereo will be loose. Simply connect the Avic’s wiring harness with the wiring harness in the car, and connect your antenna’s and iPod cable and you are done. Turn on the car and make sure everything works. If it works, you need to push the stereo into the dash. This is difficult because there are now so many wires. The ebay kit will come with a mounting bracket. Attach this to the Avic and start sliding it in. It will be VERY tight. You will need to kind of reach around back and work some of the wires down and out of the way so you can get the stereo all the way in. Slap on your trim piece and reinstall everything and you are done.

I did this over the course of two weekends. The ebay kits cost over $500 and I probably could have had it installed professionally for that amount. But, there are no splices into the factory wiring behind the dash and everything can be uninstalled just by unsnapping the wiring harnesses. I would think that an installer would just splice everything together. I also think that the trim piece you get from ebay is nicer than what most installers would fabricate just by looking at some of the other installs I have seen on the board.

I find the Avic D3 to be a nice piece of kit and well worth the money. There are however 2 things you should know about the products that I purchased. The Avic (and all current pioneer units) populate their phonebooks via Bluetooth from your phone. Some phones may not have the appropriate Bluetooth profiles to accomplish this (like my iPhone). So you think, “No Biggy, I don’t have that many numbers I need so I will just manually input them”. Well, not so fast. There is NO way to do this. You can input 6 “speed dial” numbers (without the associated names) and that is it. All other numbers you will need to manually dial from the Avic or your phone. And when someone calls you, the caller id number will show up, but not the name even though you have them stored in your phone. I think this is a HUGE oversight on Pioneers part.

The other thing is my review camera unit. There is a lead from the actual camera unit (short) and an extension lead that routes to the front of the car (long). You connect these two together. The wires are tiny (24g?) and the connectors are too. The connection WILL fail. Very flimsy. The manufacturer said they did this so you would not have to drill large holes in your bumper. Instead of using the supplied connectors, cut them off and splice the wires together.

Head over to Avic411.com for lots of info on the Pioneer Avic units and also for information on how to bypass the "safety" features built in to this stereo.

A lot of this is from memory but I have tried to be as accurate as possible. I hope this helps some of you wanting to do the same thing.


Jay

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Old 04-20-2008, 06:52 AM
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Have been thinking about this for a LONG TIME. The price for the AVIC has come down quite a bit in a year, and I do like the unit.

Thanks for taking the time to post. How about if you make this an article for others to use?

Maybe one of the moderators will take the information and add it to an existing.
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Thanks for the write-up. I take it you have a regular system (non-Bose). Is there a way to do an AVIC install while keeping the Bose Amplifier and speakers using one of the AUX interface boxes (Dension, Nav-TV, Mobridge...)? Or does the Porsche headunit still have to be n the loop?
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I have the non-Bose. I believe it is possible to do it on a Bose system but it would not be something you would want to do yourself. The Bose head unit could come out but a good installer would need to do some tweaking of the speakers to make them work. You may need to put in another amp as well.
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Thanks for the write-up. I take it you have a regular system (non-Bose). Is there a way to do an AVIC install while keeping the Bose Amplifier and speakers using one of the AUX interface boxes (Dension, Nav-TV, Mobridge...)? Or does the Porsche headunit still have to be n the loop?

Yes you can add an after market AVIC or any other head unit to an existing BOSE system. However since BOSE MOST runs fiber, 2 ohm speakers, and a fiber loop BOSE amp, you have to do a few things. You need to run all new coper wire, add an amp, and add something to change the 2 ohm outout to match normakl head unit ratings that are 4-8ohms I belive. It can be done but its a pain in the neck imo and after what is probably a pretty expensive install you are still left with the sub-par BOSE speakers.

I am in the same situation because I took another customers Cayman S order that after it came in he could not offered (divorced from Rich wife ahah). So I got my car at 1,000 under invoice for an 2008. I wasnt happy about the BOSE but could not pass on such a good deal.
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NO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PUT IN NEW SPEAKER WIRES.

I just had my AVIC-D3 installed with my existing BOSE speakers. I will start a thread with pictures shortly. Total cost with all parts and labor was $2000, which includes a 5 channel amp as well.
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NO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PUT IN NEW SPEAKER WIRES.

I just had my AVIC-D3 installed with my existing BOSE speakers. I will start a thread with pictures shortly. Total cost with all parts and labor was $2000, which includes a 5 channel amp as well.

I can't wait to see this one. Waiting with baited breath.

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Looking forward to this one too.
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Here is a link to my write-up regarding the Avic-D3 install with the Bose system:

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What Connection to use for Iphone to AVIC

What type of conection is being used to connect an Iphone to an AVIC.
Is it the standard pioneer CD-1200 IPOD ADAPTER ?? and does it realy work and also charge the Iphone. Mike
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What type of conection is being used to connect an Iphone to an AVIC.
Is it the standard pioneer CD-1200 IPOD ADAPTER ?? and does it realy work and also charge the Iphone. Mike
Yes Yes and Yes.
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Thanks for the help guys, one more question. Has anyone had any problems with the double din cage, I mean its a real sloppy fit? or did eveyone just buy the jap kit to get the extra brackets to make it fit. Any idea on just getting some brakets as I have a fascia plate sorted. Made my own from ablack gloss acrilic, perspex, and millied it down to fit perfic, and it looks the ones being sold on ebay for the older boxster shape. just need to sort this double din cage out, also fitted sat nave areial under wiper cowel. no problem at all and run the cable through the spare grommet at the back of the battery.
Thanks mike
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