Go Back   The Cayman Club > Cayman Discussion > Cayman Modifications
Champion (Platinum)

Notices

Cayman Modifications Discuss modifications to your Cayman

» Kinetic Speed Shop


» Softronic


» Club Sponsors

Want to Advertise?

Plantium Sponsors
Suncoast Motorsports
Porsche Exchange
Mods4Cars
Tire Rack
Softronic
TPC Racing
Kinetic Speed Shop
Capristo
Farnbacher Loles
Park Place
Hendrick Porsche
M's Machine Works
Modacar
Arlan Motorsports
Autopia
Escort Radar
Wheel Enhancement
Jim Ellis Porsche
Aristocrat Motors
Porsche of Hilton Head
McKenna Porsche
Evolution Motorsports
All Sponsors
» Donations
Your Donation Will Be Used To Pay For our ever increasing bandwidth costs, our hosting Service, domain registration, software licensing fees, maintenance costs and product evaluations Only!

USD $

Please enter your donation amount above,
and then click on the donate button below.



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-04-2007, 12:54 AM
Krokodil's Avatar
PCA / POC Member & Club Donor
1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained Nov 2008! Track Master: Given to those who have demonstrated exceptional skill on road courses with their Cayman and have regularly shared track tips and/or instructed other members at the track. - Issue reason: Nominated by your peers. PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/2008 Auto Cross: Given to those who have shared exceptional autocross techniques and information to help others achieve autocross success. - Issue reason: Nominated by member. Donations Silver: Given to someone who has donated at least $100 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 10/26/07 
Total Awards: 7
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,006
Images: 50
Country:
Need Help - Photo of the Underside of the Bumper on a Tiptronic

I need a picture of the underside of a Tiptronic bumper, not the inlet, but the bottom, bottom where it screws to the car.

There is a difference between the manual and tip car bumpers (confirmed by the part numbers) and I want to make sure that I appropriately modify my bumper to allow proper airflow out the back of my recently installed third radiator.

Yes, I know, I will hold none of you responsible for what I do with the photo. Also, once I get the picture and make any changes, I will amend my radiator installation write up.

Cheers,
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-04-2007, 09:00 AM
kareldeeley's Avatar
Cayman Commander!

1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained July 2008 Cayman Registry: Award given to someone who enters their Cayman into the Cayman Registry complete with Photo! - Issue reason: Entry 04/10/07 Donations Bronze: Given to someone who has donated at least $50 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 1/26/07 Donations Bronze: Given to someone who has donated at least $50 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation on 8/4/2006 
Total Awards: 4
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1,253
Images: 17
Country:
Many Thanks for sending in a PM the Information regarding fitting the Central Radiator (especially the bit about the extra parts needed.........)

I plan to install a GT3 Grille on the top of the bumper - in your opinion will that be enough to allow proper airflow?

Possibly this may be an answer for you, so you do not have modify the underside?
__________________
Cheers Karel

'Power is Nothing without Control..........'
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-05-2007, 03:03 AM
Krokodil's Avatar
PCA / POC Member & Club Donor
1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained Nov 2008! Track Master: Given to those who have demonstrated exceptional skill on road courses with their Cayman and have regularly shared track tips and/or instructed other members at the track. - Issue reason: Nominated by your peers. PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/2008 Auto Cross: Given to those who have shared exceptional autocross techniques and information to help others achieve autocross success. - Issue reason: Nominated by member. Donations Silver: Given to someone who has donated at least $100 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 10/26/07 
Total Awards: 7
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,006
Images: 50
Country:
kareldeeley,

You will see when you get the parts installed that the 987 tip radiator leans back and is surrounded by a duct (upper retaining frame) that directs the air downward.

The air will need to be ducted out the bottom of the bumper, so no I do not think the GT3 grille will work properly (or at all).

I will need to look at the GT3 parts catalog, but I believe it uses a different frame and duct design to direct the air upward through the grille.

Cheers,
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 08-08-2007, 03:09 PM
kareldeeley's Avatar
Cayman Commander!

1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained July 2008 Cayman Registry: Award given to someone who enters their Cayman into the Cayman Registry complete with Photo! - Issue reason: Entry 04/10/07 Donations Bronze: Given to someone who has donated at least $50 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 1/26/07 Donations Bronze: Given to someone who has donated at least $50 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation on 8/4/2006 
Total Awards: 4
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1,253
Images: 17
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Krokodil View Post
kareldeeley,

You will see when you get the parts installed that the 987 tip radiator leans back and is surrounded by a duct (upper retaining frame) that directs the air downward.

The air will need to be ducted out the bottom of the bumper, so no I do not think the GT3 grille will work properly (or at all).

I will need to look at the GT3 parts catalog, but I believe it uses a different frame and duct design to direct the air upward through the grille.

Cheers,
I found this on the RennTech.com Site........ You might have to register to access it

https://techinfo.porsche.com/techinf..._2_KATALOG.pdf

Does this help at all? Seems like the radiator is different and a different (simpler) mounting mechanism (996 part numbers)
__________________
Cheers Karel

'Power is Nothing without Control..........'
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 08-08-2007, 05:03 PM
Krokodil's Avatar
PCA / POC Member & Club Donor
1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained Nov 2008! Track Master: Given to those who have demonstrated exceptional skill on road courses with their Cayman and have regularly shared track tips and/or instructed other members at the track. - Issue reason: Nominated by your peers. PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/2008 Auto Cross: Given to those who have shared exceptional autocross techniques and information to help others achieve autocross success. - Issue reason: Nominated by member. Donations Silver: Given to someone who has donated at least $100 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 10/26/07 
Total Awards: 7
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,006
Images: 50
Country:
Stitchy to the rescue! Thanks for the photos.

Below is a picture of the underside of the bumper on a Tiptronic. Note the four square holes cut into the bumper. These are not present on the manual cars and exist to allow the air ducted through the third (center) radiator to exit.

Those installing the center radiator will need to create similar holes in the bottom of their bumpers. I do not remember, but the backside may already be scribed.

I will be making the change this weekend.

Cheers,



Last edited by Krokodil; 08-08-2007 at 06:13 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 08-08-2007, 06:12 PM
kareldeeley's Avatar
Cayman Commander!

1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained July 2008 Cayman Registry: Award given to someone who enters their Cayman into the Cayman Registry complete with Photo! - Issue reason: Entry 04/10/07 Donations Bronze: Given to someone who has donated at least $50 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 1/26/07 Donations Bronze: Given to someone who has donated at least $50 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation on 8/4/2006 
Total Awards: 4
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1,253
Images: 17
Country:
OK, Many Thanks -
I will arrange for my new SpeedArt Bumper to have these lower vents installed as well as the GT3 Upper Vents...........

Will it make me drive faster? Not a chance, will it make me feel better..........? Undoubtedly!
__________________
Cheers Karel

'Power is Nothing without Control..........'
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 08-08-2007, 08:12 PM
douzzer's Avatar
Cayman Idealist
500 post club
Awards Showcase
PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/08 Cayman Registry: Award given to someone who enters their Cayman into the Cayman Registry complete with Photo! - Issue reason: Entry 11/07/07 
Total Awards: 2
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Northern Idaho
Posts: 798
Images: 4
Country:
Btw, I think it's the jumbled up air pathway through the 3rd radiator that drops the Tiptronic Cayman's Cd from .29 to .30. Does anyone know of any other aerodynamic changes between the 6 speed and tip?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 08-08-2007, 08:19 PM
Krokodil's Avatar
PCA / POC Member & Club Donor
1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained Nov 2008! Track Master: Given to those who have demonstrated exceptional skill on road courses with their Cayman and have regularly shared track tips and/or instructed other members at the track. - Issue reason: Nominated by your peers. PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/2008 Auto Cross: Given to those who have shared exceptional autocross techniques and information to help others achieve autocross success. - Issue reason: Nominated by member. Donations Silver: Given to someone who has donated at least $100 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 10/26/07 
Total Awards: 7
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,006
Images: 50
Country:
Quote:
Originally Posted by douzzer View Post
Btw, I think it's the jumbled up air pathway through the 3rd radiator that drops the Tiptronic Cayman's Cd from .29 to .30. Does anyone know of any other aerodynamic changes between the 6 speed and tip?
douzzer,

The front wheel housings are also slightly different, directing the airflow from the side radiators more to the outside rather than under the car.

This is likely to compensate for the larger amount of air flowing under the car after it exits the center radiator.

Cheers,
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 08-27-2007, 07:17 PM
Krokodil's Avatar
PCA / POC Member & Club Donor
1,000 post club
Awards Showcase
Posts Bronze: Given to someone who has posted at least 1,000 posts on the site - Issue reason: Attained Nov 2008! Track Master: Given to those who have demonstrated exceptional skill on road courses with their Cayman and have regularly shared track tips and/or instructed other members at the track. - Issue reason: Nominated by your peers. PCA Member: Given to members who are currently part of PCA and have a valid PCA member ID# in their user profile on this site and have applied for and been admitted to the PCA Members Group on this website via the Group Memberships link in the User Control Panel - Issue reason: 2/5/2008 Auto Cross: Given to those who have shared exceptional autocross techniques and information to help others achieve autocross success. - Issue reason: Nominated by member. Donations Silver: Given to someone who has donated at least $100 to the site. - Issue reason: Donation 10/26/07 
Total Awards: 7
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,006
Images: 50
Country:
Job finished. Holes are now cut in the bottom of the bumper to facilitate the airflow from the center radiator.

I would post a picture, but it looks jut like the one above (very OEM).

I made a template from a Tip car on a dealer lot and cut the holes with a Dremel tool (cutting bit and guide). Entire job took less than 1 hour.

Edit: rough sketch attached (with dimensions)


Last edited by Krokodil; 08-31-2007 at 05:08 AM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote Up!
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Scraping Underside of Front Bumper titanic Cayman Chat 31 06-12-2007 12:55 PM
Metal plate to protect underside of front Yellowdragon Cayman Modifications 16 06-08-2007 10:20 AM
ROADandTRACK.com -- Photo Galleries - Photo Gallery: Porsche Cayman S ... admin MSN News 0 11-22-2006 10:21 AM
R&T ROADandTRACK.com -- Photo Galleries - Photo Gallery: Porsche ... admin MSN News 0 11-16-2006 09:27 PM
bumper warts skatefriday Cayman Chat 19 06-17-2006 08:53 AM