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I have seen a number of suspension threads for the CS, but about the standard C.
Assuming that I get a C without PASM, I will be looking to lower it by just 1" or so. I am NOT looking for different ride characteristic - I just want it to look better. If there was a Porsche ROW suspension that would do that - it would be at the top of the list.
Can someone help me with the springs that are available, and their rates and lowering amount? I know that Eibach offers something that is listed as lowering the car by 1.3", that is little more than I was looking for. I also do not know what the rates are. If I also have to change the shocks, then I may as well go with PSS9s. (Although I am not a Bilstein fan, I understand that Porsche used them for the PASM system - so they should know what they are doing here.)
So again. Any springs that offer moderate lowering and are designed to work with the OEM non PASM shocks? I am not looking for better "performance", but I definitely do not want it to be worse! Anything that is Porsche approved?
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
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Tomasz
Apologies for spelling mistakes, most of them are keyboarding errors. To enjoy this forum I run out of time to proof read.
my garage: 2000 Audi S4 (not stock) | 2007 Porsche Cayman S (almost stock) | 2007 VW Passat 4Motion Wagon (still stock)
The Eibach Pro-Kit Part#: E10-72-008-22 Cayman / S (Says so on the label - do not let them give you Boxster Springs) Is perfect, around $550 plus fitting (7 hours)and you use your standard currently fitted shocks. 30mm 1.3" is perfect especially if you have 18" wheels or smaller. The ride is a tad stiffer, but not harsh -
I will be looking to lower it by just 1" or so. I am NOT looking for different ride characteristic - I just want it to look better.
You cannot install lowering springs alone without changing the ride characteristics. IMO, changing springs alone inevitably compromises what is a very well designed & engineered suspension system. A better, albeit more expensive, way to lower the car would be with PSS9s or other coilovers.
I lowered my pasm Cayman S last week with Cargraphic springs , they have lowered the car 20mm all round , it looks loads better and I can't tell any difference in the ride quality , I will take a couple of pics tomorrow and post them in this thread (if its not raining again !)
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
I lowered my pasm Cayman S last week with Cargraphic springs , they have lowered the car 20mm all round , it looks loads better and I can't tell any difference in the ride quality , I will take a couple of pics tomorrow and post them in this thread (if its not raining again !)
Does this mean that it is 20mm lower than the original PASM height, therefore 30mm lower than a non-PASM car? Look forward to the pic.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
First pic was taken a couple of months ago when I first got the car , I should also mention the car has Booth spacers fitted , 15mm on the rear and 6mm on the front
The Eibach Pro-Kit Part#: E10-72-008-22 Cayman / S (Says so on the label - do not let them give you Boxster Springs) Is perfect, around $550 plus fitting (7 hours)and you use your standard currently fitted shocks. 30mm 1.3" is perfect especially if you have 18" wheels or smaller. The ride is a tad stiffer, but not harsh -
Thank you. I did see the Eibach kit, and I am not ready to go that low. I know that it will look great, but little too low for snow, etc. I will keep looking and let everyone know what I pick.
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Tomasz
Apologies for spelling mistakes, most of them are keyboarding errors. To enjoy this forum I run out of time to proof read.
my garage: 2000 Audi S4 (not stock) | 2007 Porsche Cayman S (almost stock) | 2007 VW Passat 4Motion Wagon (still stock)