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Old 11-03-2007, 02:45 PM
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2 Days of Mods - Update

All my parts came in today so Mike Courtney's team here in Minneapolis began my build-out. Before I start though - I hope everyone can find a crew like Mike's to work on their cars. I bring the parts, they bring the labor. They have tons of experience working on Pcars and own and race them. The shop is clean and they have all the equipment. They have opinions and are willing to share them. Perfect.

So what did we have done?

1) Quaife. The TBD is a very nice piece of equipment - very solid. Mike told me that he has put many Quaife's into various different racing machines and suggested I get new bearings. He told me that I'm at about 50% risk for losing a bearing (and hence mobility) if I reuse the ones there.

We had Carousel Porsche deliver a set of bearings. They sent the Boxster ones that don't fit. So we are waiting for the right ones air freighted from Germany.

2) TPC Sway Bars. These things are huge! Mike's comment was that they are bigger than the sway bars on the 993. They are a solid piece of kit, powder coated and shiny. I tried to squeeze them in a he-man like move. No go.

I wasn't there for the install (got called to Chicago on business Thursday) - but they look pretty sweet when all tucked in.

3) PSS9s. These are pretty nice looking. The color springs, the shiny stainless. The adjustment nut on the bottom is pretty easy to access when the car is on the ground. Slide on a piece of cardboard and you should have no problems.

Because of the stiffer suspension, we decided the lower the car by about 20mmm and Mike adjusted the camber so the car would be a bit more aggressive cornering.

4) Blizzaks. We took the summer tires off the rim. The tire guy asked me if I wanted to keep the tires? They were still good so I said 'yes'. He said that he wasn't sure 'cuz the Porsche guys are weird'.

Mike told me a story about a Zone 10 PCA member who frequents this board.

They brought in their car early in the summer and decided to swap out the tires before they were completely done. Mike stored the tires. Later in the season they came back needing new tires but not wanting to pay for them so late in the season. Mike showed them the stored tires and they said 'how much'. He then told them it was their own tires.

The Results

Perhaps in a week I will get the Quaife unit installed. But I can tell you about the results of the suspension mods.

The car is much, much tighter sprung than factory. This translates into a faster bump dynamic. The car moves less, but quicker. The result is that the ride quality is a bit rougher but the big bumps are quite attenuated.

The CS always felt like a solid slab going around corners. With the swaybars, it's hard to believe, but it's even more solid. This is by far the biggest thing I have noticed. This is a combination of all the changes, but it's a nice feeling.

I chucked the car around a few corners and got some drift happening. The car restabilized with much less to-and-fro. It felt really nice.

I also got a bit of power oversteer happening and the car settled much faster than before.

When doing my first DE a couple months ago, I started thinking 'stabilize the platform before making the turn' - I can see how these mods will stabilize the platform faster - letting me take corners later.

Good news - trunk clunk is almost gone. Note from the survey that people with PASM (hence 10mm lower) rarely report it. Manual lowering seems to have the same result.

Bad news - trunk boom happened. If you are wondering what the difference is - trunk boom scares the **** out of you. It's like a kettle drum! The dynamic settling difference means that when you hit a big bump, the hatch settles quickly. I'm gonna have to fix that!

I'll give another update when the Quaife unit is finally installed.

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A wee bit off-topic.

Great write up.

I net with Mike last month at BIR. Seems like a great guy to work with.

I will be watching how you do with your mods. I might be taking a bit more time with mines, but do plan to do a Quaife/LSD type upgrade and suspension work. Havent figured what sways to go with yet but sounds like you had good experience with yours.

Do you plan to drive the Cayman during winter?

I drove all my BMW's without problem (even the quite lowered E36) and am tempted to do the same with the Porsche.

Anyway its interesting to watch you on your journey with the Cayman.
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Very nice! Getting ready for that snow, eh?

...not that I will have to be concerned about it
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Great write up.
Do you plan to drive the Cayman during winter?
That's the working theory right now. I actually travel quite a bit during the week and the family car is a Honda CR-V (very snow friendly).

By lowering 20mm though - I'm wondering whether the car will be able to climb a frozen amoeba.

I rented a 300M a couple of winters ago and it was 100% useless in the snow.

Maybe we'll make the Minnesota version of The Fast and the Furious .... Snow Drifter.




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A couple more observations on the mods.

1) The stupid grooved highways in MN set up a resonance with the new harmonics in the spring setup. One of the guys here describes his Cayman as a 'mobile amusement park'. He must have the same setup. Bouncy, bouncy, bouncy, bounce ... oh such wonderful fun! (Quote from Winnie the Pooh). We will be adjusting that soon.

2) The right front PSS9 is doing that crunchy creak sound. After reading online it appears that one of the washers may be installed upside down. We'll get after that too.

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(At least I have never seen another in Minneapolis)
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.... the wonderful thing about Caymans - is I drive the only one!

(At least I have never seen another in Minneapolis)
I saw a white one at the Bloomington Sheraton Oct 27th when I was in town for the BMWCCA Teen Survival School.

Here in Fargo we have at least 3 others that I am aware of.

Anyway the car did attrack quite a bit of attention at the BMW events.

At the Teen school, I gave kids a ride round Dakota County Technical College. They seemed to get quite a kick out of that (windows down, full throttle does seem to bring the smiles out of budding car enthusiats!).

Hope to see you at a PCA event at BIR in 08. (I might have to try and get a ride with you to see how the Cayman should feel like).

BTW, with the E46 M3 when I added Eibach springs I ended up with quite a bouncy ride at first. It settled some as I added a couple of hundred miles but still remained to an extent. In the case of the BMW it seemed to be a trampoline effect from the seats and would have gone if I switched to race shells. I doubt that would be the case with the Cayman seats - but might be a question to aske from those that have the Bilsteins and GT3 seats - just a thought.

Anyway cheers!!

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