Hey folks,

Am looking for some advice. I'm in a bit of a quandry over what to do in relation to upgrading whats on my ECU. Mines is a 3.4 cayman S.

I'm having a full supersprint exhaust fitted in February, the one with the race tested backbox - I'm willing to believe that the front end is just as good as its going into the Italian Cayman Cup cars for this season as well.... Anyway, enough about the exhaust.

With the exhaust install, my installer is highly recommending a Revo remap to be done at the same time, however when I mention the softronic they advise its not something they deal with.....

I have the equipment to do the softronic flash myself - laptop, batt charger etc etc so no probs on that front.

What would be more beneficial to me ?

Revo remap will cost me roughly the same as the softronic flash so cost does not come into the equation.

Would the softronic flash give me more HP increase ? allegedly 15hp or so ?

I'm a little in the dark over the REAL benefits of it, not just the advertised ones. I've done a few searches, but would appreciate anyone who can compare the two.... And advise which of the two would work best with the Supersprint exhaust 'racing' system.

Thanks in advance, much appreciated!

I know that some people on this forum have had success stacking mod onto mod, but in my experience I generally advise against installing many bolt ons that might not be made to work with each other. Sometimes you can make your car run worse.

I would say do the exhaust, get it sorted, run it for a month or two, then if you want to try flashing it you can try that afterward. Doing both at once just can lead to problems troubleshooting issues or unexpected problems.

Think about it this way, the makers of the exhaust likely did not test their exhaust on a flashed car, and the makers of the flash likely did not make the flash on a car with an exhaust. They use stock cars for testing because this is their target market.

A flash can effect the exhaust and conversely the exhaust can effect the engine and therefore the software. Right?

My previous passion was turbo VW's and I can't tell you how many people had problems with check engine lights or other issues that could be traced to having too many bolt-on mods and software flashes that just pushed the whole system out of balance.

Good advice Kor thanks....

The Revo remap I have been offered is specifically designed to be done at the same time as an exhaust upgrade, and the tuners tell me that they will tailor the re-programming to work with the Supersprint exhaust. They are also offering to do it half-price at £400 rather than the normal £800 or so.

I may stand corrected however REVO in the past has always had generic maps that were made and sent to all the dealers for flashing. These maps are then used on all the same type car and offer no specific tuning. A dealer gets credits to flash these maps. I'm not sure how an individual tuner would now turn this into a specialized map for one car or for a specific exhaust.

I believe you are also talking about just a rear muffler and not a complete exhaust system. This would not affect the original or secondary O2 readings at the CAT if installed either. Having said this a custom tune for just the rear muffler is not required.

You may well be right about the Revo remap being generic.

The exhaust system is the FULL supersprint one, headers / cats (only 2, not the OEM 4) and the rear as wel.....

What advantages would the softronic flash have that the revo one wouldn't ? Am I able to get a specific download that would complement my exhaust system ? I'm not an expert in tuning by any means so would be dubious about doing any tuning or programming myself, however if a download were available that would work well with the superspring exhaust system (racing version + 15HP or so) then I'd be most interested...

Thanks for your help!

The Softronic map is self adjusting and it will adjust the timing and fuel within a our set table. Now what Softronic offers is specific tuning for your car if it can be put on a dyno or you can purchase our data logger with diagnostic cable and sample it yourself. What does this exactly mean? You can flash the car with Softronic and then drive the car with our data logger and send us the file that was created in real time. This will give us any info that we require to alter your file and make it run 100%. We currently can pull six parameters at 7 times per second. This process is only useful in cars that exceeded our standard adaptive maps. These would be special project, Turbo additions and other mechanically change base cars etc.

Softronic is now introducing the fastest reader /flasher and data logger in existence for Porsche.

What happen to the cargraphic exhaust and the 5k you were going to spend at Parr ?

Decided against it for three reasons:

1) the supersprint exhaust system is superior, both in terms of build quality and increase in HP

2) Parr is around a 7 hour drive away from me, so quite a bit of faffing about getting down there, staying overnight etc

3) They were the 1st qoute I got and wrongly assumed it was quite a good one. After getting a couple more, it appears that Parr although reputable, are also expensive compared to other suppliers / installers.

For less than £4k, I am getting a full superspint race-tested system (was only getting the cargraphic backbox at Parr) and also a remap thrown in if I want it.

Having researched the ECU side of things a bit more though, I may just leave the remap and go with the softronic flash - easier to restore back to factory settings as well. I like how clever the softronic programme is, and the fact I can have a certain level of control over things.

I'm still thinking about it, but for now may just go with the exhaust and leave the remap on ice till the Spring and till I've got a couple of other mods done, then setup the ECU to work in conjunction with everything, not just the exhaust....

Thanks again guys !

Regarding Softronic, I have it and like it, but in my particular case I bought it mainly because I wanted the Sport Crono, and with it, eliminate the autoupshift of my triptronic transmission.

Scott promissed me he will work on it, and I have been waiting since September for this since he told me at that time that he was testing it.

I have sent him private messages to him thru this site , and e mailed him many times and have had no reply, so Im loosing hope there will ever be a fix for the Tip, and also dissapointed that Scott promised something and then no returned any of my attempts of comunication.

Softronic is good, but in my particular case Im disapointed that my Tip wasnt fixed the way I wanted it and was promised.And the replies never came.

I would suggest calling him on the phone and hashing it out then, perhaps he has a fix and has forgotten to tell you or perhaps there is more to the issue than he originally anticipated, but issues like these are best addressed by phone.

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