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Spoke to H&R in US today about their 54020 kit. The person I spoke to did not share spring rates with me - their policy. Did not know that PASM and standard springs have different spring rates. Actually argued otherwise. Did not know that PASM cars are 10mm lower, therefore did not know if the 1.2" lowering was from standard or PASM car. Also argued that point with me.
Basically, my take is that H&R distributor in US has no clue as to what they are selling. I would not touch their product with a stick.
Wish me luck with Eibach.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
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Apologies for spelling mistakes, most of them are keyboarding errors. To enjoy this forum I run out of time to proof read.
my garage: 2000 Audi S4 (not stock) | 2007 Porsche Cayman S (almost stock) | 2007 VW Passat 4Motion Wagon (still stock)
Spoke to H&R in US today about their 54020 kit. The person I spoke to did not share spring rates with me - their policy. Did not know that PASM and standard springs have different spring rates. Actually argued otherwise. Did not know that PASM cars are 10mm lower, therefore did not know if the 1.2" lowering was from standard or PASM car. Also argued that point with me.
Basically, my take is that H&R distributor in US has no clue as to what they are selling. I would not touch their product with a stick.
Wish me luck with Eibach.
Do you know what exactly you are talking about? - or did you confuse whoever you talked to (who may not be the right person)?
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
Thats sad to hear that Tomasz . I Looked in to the Eibach myself before putting on the H&R's and the H&R's work better for the Cayman trust me.I would not let 1 person that is being an Idiot and I know thats hard to do change my mind about the H&R's .There is a reason close to 80% of Porsche owners choose H&R over Eibach.The stance is much better on the H&R's as well (LOWER) I have had them for almost 1 year now and they are simply AWSOME .Car handels GREAT !! sorry to hear the guy was an Idiot .This is bad for H&R but the product it really good . where do they get these people Maybe there is a H&R rep on this site that can call you ??
The spring that Champion sells for the Boxster and the Cayman cars with PASM are the same springs H&R sells for the sam application, they even have the same part number. Whoever you talked to is not very informed. Their springs were developed for the car with PASM in mind.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
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Actually, I wouldn't touch standalone springs - coilovers are the way to go. I've seen springs produce really harsh rides and drastically shorten shock life...not to mention there was a recent thread about a horror story w/ a sping-only install.
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Actually, I wouldn't touch standalone springs - coilovers are the way to go. I've seen springs produce really harsh rides and drastically shorten shock life...not to mention there was a recent thread about a horror story w/ a sping-only install.
On some cars I would agree with you but I drove mine with the H&R's for over a year and it was totally fine, good even. I have something more racy now but the shocks and springs held up great and are now on my brothers car.
cars with soft stock shocks like a Civic or something become very bouncy since the stiff spring and the fact that they may often hit the bumpstops wears the shocks and causes a bouncy and uncontrolled ride.
You probably got a noob on the phone...I would not torch the whole company because of it.
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Do you know what exactly you are talking about? - or did you confuse whoever you talked to (who may not be the right person)?
Karel, you are right that I may have not spoken to a right person. But U.S. importer for H&R in U.S. is VERY small and the person was somewhat condascending and wrong on at least two points. (Ride height and rates for PASM vs. non PASM cars.) I know what I am talking about as I have experience building race suspensions. This is not a race setup by any means, but would you buy springs without knowing what rate they were?
Eibach spring rates can be had by calling Eibach, they do not want them posted on the internet. They are very close to PASM equipped Cayman S linear rates. Based on numbers alone they should be a perfect choice. BTW, 987 Boxster springs are much softer in the rear while same on the front.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
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Tomasz
Apologies for spelling mistakes, most of them are keyboarding errors. To enjoy this forum I run out of time to proof read.
my garage: 2000 Audi S4 (not stock) | 2007 Porsche Cayman S (almost stock) | 2007 VW Passat 4Motion Wagon (still stock)
Thats sad to hear that Tomasz . I Looked in to the Eibach myself before putting on the H&R's and the H&R's work better for the Cayman trust me.I would not let 1 person that is being an Idiot and I know thats hard to do change my mind about the H&R's .There is a reason close to 80% of Porsche owners choose H&R over Eibach.The stance is much better on the H&R's as well (LOWER) I have had them for almost 1 year now and they are simply AWSOME .Car handels GREAT !! sorry to hear the guy was an Idiot .This is bad for H&R but the product it really good . where do they get these people Maybe there is a H&R rep on this site that can call you ??
Well, Eibach had teh answer for me in 5 minutes. I thought that I ought to give them a try. I did, as soon as they are installed I really want to meet up and swap rides. I agree that I was too harsh (no pun intended) on H&R, but a policy againts sharing spring rates??? C'mon!
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Apologies for spelling mistakes, most of them are keyboarding errors. To enjoy this forum I run out of time to proof read.
my garage: 2000 Audi S4 (not stock) | 2007 Porsche Cayman S (almost stock) | 2007 VW Passat 4Motion Wagon (still stock)
H&R makes some of the best suspension products I have used on several cars, and I have probably ridden in over 20 cars with H&R suspensions and always been impressed. Plus, as said, big name Porsche tuners rebrand them as their own springs. They are that good. I would say that regardless of some salesperson, they make a great product.
You may have talked to the same uninformed, argumentative and condescending person that I dealt with at H&R concerning a problem I was having with loose front sway bar bushings. I am still angry with them. They seem to make a good product; it is just too bad that they have less than qualified staff manning their telephone.
Maybe there is a H&R rep on this site that can call you ??
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