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Old 06-16-2008, 02:49 PM
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OE Exhaust Hanger/Mount

I've been doing a little research on exhaust systems lately and during this research I've discovered something pretty interesting; The factory exhaust hanger.

The factory exhaust hanger is a pretty sophisticated piece of mechanical hardware. At first glance, it looks goofy and unusual. But look closer and you can see that the design of this thing is very deliberate. Take a look at this picture:



You can see many pivot and adjustment points. Some of these connections tighten up, some retain a little compliance to allow movement.

The most interesting bits, in my opinion, are the isolators at the top of the hanger. If you take a close look at them, you will find that they're stuffed with coarse steel wool. They allow the rods inside to turn and/or move slightly in or out of the isolator. I've taken mine apart and snapped some pictures for you:





While examining this I also noticed that these parts appear to be made of stainless steel. A quick magnet test reveals that I'm right. Not only is it stainless, it's a pretty decent grade of stainless, one that contains nickel (that makes the steel non magnetic and it greatly improves its corrosions resistance).

So why all of the sophistication? Is this Porsche's way of minimizing drone? Is it their way of eliminating vibration? Has this mount been created so the exhaust can expand and contract with heat cycles without fatiguing and/or cracking? Has this bracket been created with adaptability so every car can be dialed in for a perfect fit despite their own alignment differences? I say all of the above.

The next question that pops into my mind is, why would you want to remove this hanger? Some aftermarket exhaust manufacturers utilize it, others abandon it.

I'm a pretty curious guy and I love to work on my car, so I think it's time for the next Gator Bite exhaust experiment. I've decided to remove my Borla system and try another. But I want to try one that uses the OE exhaust hanger. So this weekend was a good time to start.

My OE exhaust hanger was very grungy. It's hard to believe that with only 5,962 miles my hanger looked like this:





Yuck....! "So, what's with all the grease" is what you're probably thinking. Well, that there ain't no grease... That's cosmoline, a protective coating that Porsche sprays onto our cars to protect them from corrosion while crossing the ocean. It's the source of that smell that we all love so much and the beautiful crud on the inside of our wheels that's so hard to remove. Try to rub it off with a rag and you'll discover that it's like glue. Nasty.

There's no way that I'm putting that hanger back on my car in that condition. I just can't do it. So I guess I really should clean it. But hey, it is stainless steel, and I do have a buffing wheel in the basement. Hmmmmmm...... I've got an idea......

So my first task is to completely disassemble the bracket. But before I do that, there are some angles and alignments that I will want to duplicate on reassembly. So, out comes the center punch so I can make some semi permanent markings on the ends, like this:



That will help me realign the end clamps on reassembly. These were the only connection points that would require this. Once both ends were marked, out came the Snap On CT96 electric impact gun and before long I had a pile of parts that looked like this:



No, those are not handlebars.... That's the crud covered pile of parts. A quick bath in engine brite and the cosmoline softened up and melted away. That left my parts looking a little brighter. More like this:



That's nice and clean, but not bright enough for my taste. So, since we've come this far, out comes the buffing wheel.

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Old 06-16-2008, 02:58 PM
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I'm guessing it's the AWE you're trying with the OE hanger Looking forward to hearing your impressions.
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Buffing.....

So, I might as well start with the biggest piece. I started with the "handlebars" and a Lea Grade C 180 grit grease-less compound on a 6" cloth wheel at 1,750 RPMs. The Lea compound gives the metal a nice brushed finish. This is preparing the metal for our next buffing stage, coloring. Here's an example:



What a difference. It took me about an hour to buff all of the pieces to this finish, but boy do they look nice.







Unfortunately, I wasn't going for the brushed look. I wanted a full polish which meant changing the wheel out to an 8" with white coloring compound and spending another hour hitting all of the pieces again.









Stainless takes on such a nice color after buffing. But boy does it make a mess. Can you see all of that black dust? That's compound, wheel and metal debris. I was pretty much covered in that stuff.

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I think you ought to take this post and make it an article in the Articles section as well under Miscellaneous, call it something like "Remove and Reinstall Exhaust Hanger Brackets" or something like that...
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Finished product

Here are some shots of the finished mount in natural outdoor light, right before I reinstalled the mount and my stock exhaust system.







Looking good.

It took me 20 minutes to take the Borla off and about an hour to reinstall the complete factory system. Man, what a pain in the neck those front flange nuts are.

My car is now sporting the factory exhaust again, with a very pretty OE hanger. I want to "cleanse my pallet" before trying another system, and any proper test should require another before/after dyno test. So I think I'll drive my car stock for a week or so.

I have to tell you, as much as I love the Borla, driving with the factory system is a nice change. I immediately noticed less vibration at idle. With the Borla I could feel the engine pounding away. With the factory system it's as smooth as an electric motor. I'm guessing that may be because of the factory hanger but I can't say for sure.

Stand by. I hope to be testing another aftermarket system real soon.
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GB, you are the buffing King! I would make fun of you because it would seem that you have way too much time on your hands, but you can't deny the results. Looks great!

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GB- I suppose there's no way to use the factory hanger with the BORLA? I am waiting on my BORLA kit and would love to reduce vibration if possible.
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I'm guessing it's the AWE you're trying with the OE hanger Looking forward to hearing your impressions.
I'm going to take the 'K-Man S' mysterious angle on this one..... Any more guesses?

Hints: The system has to be made with great quality, or it's not going on MY car. Nor will I install one of the several systems that makes less horsepower than the original. Personally, I am interested in a sporty sound but would rather not sacrafice the sophisticated personality of my Porsche.

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GB, you are the buffing King! I would make fun of you because it would seem that you have way too much time on your hands, but you can't deny the results. Looks great!

Three hours, start to finish including dissasembly, cleaning, buffing, and reassembly. A good deal of time, but if I put a nice new exhaust system up there with that nasty looking hanger, it would just break my heart.

The sick part is that making the bracket look like this took me twice as long as swapping out the exhaust.

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GB- I suppose there's no way to use the factory hanger with the BORLA? I am waiting on my BORLA kit and would love to reduce vibration if possible.
Unfortunately not. The Borla has some very thick mounting arms welded to the mufflers, and I think the factory bracket would be in the way of their mufflers. That brand is one of the systems that doesn't use the factory bracket.