About 1.5 weeks ago I ordered a remus exhaust for my cayman S. i picked this exhaust because i simply liked the sound better than the others (and more than my other top choices-AWE and Borla). i got the exhaust yesterday, and just like several other members here, one of the test pipes had the 'power dent' in it.
and for a little more info, i paid 1475 for the exhaust which is ~300 less than most places sell it and a decent amount less than the group buy price remus was offering, so it helped make my decision as well.
now, my question is, would that 'crease' sway you to return the exhaust? the price i got is great, i know that, but regardless, would you be tempted to return the exhaust for one that didnt have a 'crease'? i know its such a small nit-picky issue as everyone says it doesnt affect the flow.
what do you think? advice, comments, personal experience. any would be appreciated. thanks.

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2006 Cayman S
2008 335 coupe-Traded in for CS
2004 ///M3-FULLY N/A with OEM Motorsport 4.10s, BBS LM's (recently sold)
2000 Carrera 4 Cab-Modded (gone but missed)

My understanding is that they're all manufactured with a dent now. I think I was one of the first that got one with a dented pipe and reported it here.
It did bother me, but I wanted to hear the sound anyway, so I installed it. Hated the sound and sold it in few days ...

whoa...what did you not like about the sound? too loud? drone? ???

what did u replace it with?

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2006 Cayman S
2008 335 coupe-Traded in for CS
2004 ///M3-FULLY N/A with OEM Motorsport 4.10s, BBS LM's (recently sold)
2000 Carrera 4 Cab-Modded (gone but missed)

All REMUS RACE will come with a dent. This is noted in our description and will not affect flow, the 21hp peak dyno was done with such an exhaust.

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yea i know the dent is there 'by design' but i have to wonder if its really NECESSARY. i am looking for some good power since there is power to be had with a CS catback, but also want the great sound, so if all holds true ill prob stay with it.

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2006 Cayman S
2008 335 coupe-Traded in for CS
2004 ///M3-FULLY N/A with OEM Motorsport 4.10s, BBS LM's (recently sold)
2000 Carrera 4 Cab-Modded (gone but missed)

Well the debate about the need of such a dent can last quite a while, however you can search for a catback failures on this forum and you'll find that on some systems the suspension rattled on the system causing welding failures.

REMUS GmbH designed the system to avoid any unecessary risk with rattling and weld failures and came up with a solution that does not affect flow as demonstrated by independant dynos.

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It's funny, when I walked into the shop to pick up the car after they installed Remus, I asked how does it sound... 3 technicians that mod cars for living quickly pretended they were preoccupied with something else... and only one muttered it sounds "ok", without a trace of enthusiasm...

The drone itself is not a problem, you could hear it in stock exhaust if you know what to look for.. It's how loud and overwhelming the drone is until about 4300 rpm. Search the youtube for "cayman remus drone", it may give you a clue, although no sound file will convey exactly what it's like to be there with windows closed.

When I went back to stock exhaust I began to appreciate it more, specifically the well-balanced "sound mixing" job it does in hiding the drone and yet letting you hear enough of it to compliment the rest of engine sound.

I am considering Porsche sports exhaust, but this time I want to listen to it live before I make up my mind.

Obviously, above are just my observations. If you have the exhaust in your hands - give it a shot, if you don't like the sound you can sell it with relatively minor hit, I imagine.

With all due respect to your opinion, this is a race system and is not meant for sensitive ears. We don't shy away from the fact that there is drone with this system as it is not meant as a sport upgrade by rather as a race upgrade.

Your situation has been talked about a lot, we've had dozens of orders combined with MaxMoto nationwide for this system and you were the only customer that complained about excessive drone.

In regards to the dent and drone, this is something that your respective dealer should inform you of.

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???

My situation?....... Sensitive ears?..... ))

Who concluded I have sensitive ears?

hmm.. a reasonable gentleman in me wants to politely inquire for factual support of your outrageous conclusions, but a red-blooded human in me wants to ask - WTF?

...... let's see.. the red-blooded human takes over. So, WTF?

A bit of background about what's being referred to as my "situation" -

1. after I installed the exhaust I inquired with Remus if this level of drone was acceptable.

2. I was asked to produce the video which I did.

3. Upon reviewing the video Remus USA has informed me on the phone that the note and level of sound appears normal.


Now let me recap it for everyone...
1. I was first to "brake the news" to Cayman Club members that Remus exhaust had a dent. I believe I was patient, and reasonable working out the details and trying to identify the dent as unintentional or "manufactured".

2. In my previous posts I praised both Remus USA and Remus Austria for timely and coherent responses to my inquiry and appearing to be genuinely interested in helping me.

3. After over 3 months, I don't recall ever making any comments on Remus drone or sound on these boards.

4. In this thread I helped your customer figuring out whether the dent is on all or only on some systems. No mention of any personal experiences.

5. I offered my personal experiences only when specifically ASKED to. And BTW - particularly asked about the drone.

6. At the end of my post I acknowledged that this is just one man's opinion and....

7. I, after all, I suggested that your customer INSTALLS THE EXHAUST.


And then I get "sensitive ears"? WTF?

Look... Your next post better be a work of apologetic art or otherwise don't expect me to take you seriously anymore... Seriousely..

Purist-i def appreciate the opinions as i have no prior experience with remus on any car i have owned. i have done gemballa, supersprint and britalman on prev Porsches and bimmers so the remus stuff is new to me.
i personally dont mind a little drone, because what most define as slight drone or little drone to me is usually not much at all. my e46 m3 with full Supersprint race from the headers back with 100 cell cats was LOUD and DRONED A LOT, but when you buy exhausts, i know, as well as you, there are trade offs that you have to be able to deal with.
again, im glad someone was able to give me their personal experience and not anything 'in theory' or based on general knowledge.

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2006 Cayman S
2008 335 coupe-Traded in for CS
2004 ///M3-FULLY N/A with OEM Motorsport 4.10s, BBS LM's (recently sold)
2000 Carrera 4 Cab-Modded (gone but missed)

Happy to help. PM me if you have any other questions.