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Old 11-20-2006, 02:41 AM
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My first day photos with the Cayman S

Picked up my Cayman S, yesterday, 120 miles from home.
Meteor Grey Metallic, black interior, PASM, SC, sport seats, and sport steering wheel.

Yesterday while driving home from the dealer, I was concerned about making a mistake, the car didn't handle as well as I expected. The steering response was dull with lots of understeer and low cornering limits. I wasn't happy.

This morning raised cold pressure for the front tires to 35 psi from 30 psi and kept the back at 35 psi, the temperature was 28 degrees. My drive today was a joy with all my fears and concerns erased, the Cayman S met my expectations and more. The steering was dramatically more precise and understeer was acceptable.

Hot tire pressures were reading at 39 psi with spirited cornering and 37 psi on the straights. I really like the tire pressure monitoring system. I checked the pressure readings of the system to my dial pressure gauge and they were the same when cold.

I have yet to really use PASM, I will save it for track use.
Pretty silly for the street.

The sport chrono to me is a must have. Without it heel and toe downshifting on the street would be almost impossible, since the brake pedal is so high relative to the gas pedal. Blipping the throttle becomes easier even without good contact. I find I must be aggressive with braking, to heel and toe, much more than in any other car.
My other cars have the brake pedal and the gas pedal at the same level, my Cayman S has the brake pedal 1" or more above the height of the gas pedal.
Some gymnastic classes may help.
I am now searching for a way to lower the brake pedal about one inch.

This is my only concern with the CS. I am a proud owner.


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Old 11-20-2006, 02:55 AM
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Congrats on the new car!!

I thought I was the only one with the heel & toe issue. I also have an EVO in which I can do this without an issue. In the Cayman, I feel quite clumsy doing it. Oh well, just need to adapt I guess.
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Old 11-20-2006, 03:18 AM
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I've found that heel'n'toe is a bit easier if I angle my knee out (towards the shifter) and swivel my whole leg.. BTW, I don't have the sport chrono package.
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Old 11-20-2006, 03:37 AM
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The pedals are supposed to be out, so that when the brake is depressed slightly they are at the same level, making it easier to blip the throttle with the outside edge of your foot (closer to your heel) while the ball of your foot near your big toe handles the braking. I struggled for a while and then had a racing driver show me which helped a lot. There is nothing wrong with the pedal config on the Cayman.

The part I still struggle with is the timing. I.E. blipping the throttle so there are more revs as I let the clutch out, rather than revving the throttle and the revs falling again before I have disengaged the clutch, which defeats the purpose.
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  • Handsome car.
  • Great Pics.
  • Congratulations!
  • Prediction: The more you drive it the more you will like it.
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I think it is designed for the 98% of Porsche owners that never go to the track. Make unintended acceleration as remote a legal problem as possible and keep the brake pedal height at engagement well above the throttle level.

I have been practicing heel and toe since my first 1988 Skip Barber school and ever since on the street and track days. What once was effortless is now very labored in the Cayman S.

I only hope the brakes fade on the track so the brake pedal goes lower.
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Nice Road too, looks like fun!

Nice Road too, looks like fun!
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Congratulations on the new ride!

I have yet to try any heal and toe down-shifting.

Interesting, your comments about tire pressures, given the factory recommendations.

I have put just over 900 miles on mine and I am loving this car more and more. Hands down, best drivers car I have ever driven/owned.
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Old 11-21-2006, 10:23 PM
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I have yet to try any heal and toe down-shifting.
You picked a hard car to learn it in. If you can master it in a Cayman S, Porsche has an award ceremony.

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Interesting, your comments about tire pressures, given the factory recommendations.
The track enthusiasts follow tire mfg. track recommendations for tire pressure not Porsche's street recommendations. Follow your owners manual and you will encounter understeer at dramatically lower speeds through corners. Porsche's recommendations are designed for greater safety and reduced liability, by minimizing the oversteer risk for the average driver.

While increasing front tire pressure helps minimize understeer, track and autocross enthusiasts are still not satisfied, that is why they get a performance allignment, maximizing the negative camber for the front tires that the suspension will allow.

Now you can go through turns with greater speed before encountering understeer, but with the increased chance of oversteer. Without experience from the track or autocross, one should be reluctant to make those changes.

Go to a Porsche Club sponsored track day, you won't regret it. The Cayman S has capabilities one will only truly appreciate on the track.
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Old 11-21-2006, 11:22 PM
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Heel and toe is more easily done in a CS with a pedal kit, especially one that has an extended area on the left side of the gas pedal. On the track, the brake pedal will drop down to become more equal in height, especially when you brake hard on broken-in pads.

It is very unusual at first, but you will get used to it. I now actually use my heel to blip the throttle, rotating my foot. On the other cars (Evo, STI, M3) I have tracked, I rolled my foot across just like most people do. The new method gives me better control of the brakes because more of the ball of my foot is closer to the middle of the brake pedal.

The size of your feet make a difference as well. YMMV.
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Thanks for the recommendations on the thottle extensions, I will try it.
http://rennline.com/product.php/sid/...che/prodid/115

http://rennline.com/product.php/sid/...sche/prodid/77

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