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Just found this on youtube. I'm not even sure if this is the 2007 boxster S tested, or the lower powered 2006 model. In any case this seems to show that the two cars have similar handling characteristics. Too bad it's in Japanese.
here are the other parts...
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Might be, but I'm assuming that the drivers had PSM turned off, so the only real difference with SC is a slightly quicker throttle. I'd be more interested in knowing if both the both cars had the same suspension (PASM or not). PASM would make a much bigger difference than SC.
Not knowing the differences between the drivers, and it was clear that the Cayman was keeping up with the Boxster S (meaning it could be faster, but passing is a challenge), the Cayman could easily be the faster car on that race track. However, for now, I'm just going to enjoy the fact that the Boxster S won!
Cheers.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
PSM - Porsche Stability Management
While it can’t overcome the laws of physics, the revolutionary Porsche Stability Management (PSM) system does lend an added degree of balance and control to the Cayman’s mid-engine driving dynamics, inspiring surefooted confidence in corners and extreme situations.
A standard feature on the Cayman and Cayman S, PSM continuously monitors steering input, road speed, yaw velocity and lateral acceleration to calculate the actual direction of travel. If the car begins to steer off line, PSM instantly intervenes with precision brake inputs on individual wheels to help bring the car back onto the driver’s intended path.
If braking alone isn’t enough to correct the vehicle’s cornering line, PSM then calls on the Cayman’s engine management system, adjusting engine output as needed to help stabilize handling. PSM can also compensate in an instant for mid-corner changes in load resulting from deceleration or braking. When Sport mode is selected with the optional Sport Chrono Package, PSM’s threshold for intervention is raised, allowing for greater driver involvement. If you prefer driving without automatic PSM assistance, the system can be set to standby at any time. In this case, it will only intervene under heavy braking, where both front wheels exceed the ABS threshold.
For all of its technical ability, PSM goes virtually unnoticed in everyday driving situations, preserving the Cayman’s natural agility.
As I was watching the video, I was not impressed with the drivers. Whole video just did not feel right. Plus if you watch the video, you will see that not all the drivers were using heel and toe.
__________________ '07 Porsche Cayman S: de-snorked... more mods to come. '05 Dodge Magnum RT: catback, high-flow cats, custom intake, projector headlights, SC FlashPaq... and on and on.
Blog: leanstartups.com
Agree, SC was a handicap for the CS. Good point about PASM. Handling reaction is improved.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
These videos are fun to watch, but reflect far more about the ability (& motivation) of the drivers than the potential of the cars. I seriously doubt the lack of SC was a measureable "handicap." A slow shift, botched turn (of which there are many), blocked pass, differences in tires, etc. would account for much more.
As I was watching the video, I was not impressed with the drivers. Whole video just did not feel right. Plus if you watch the video, you will see that not all the drivers were using heel and toe.
who did you notice not heel & toeing? didn't recognize the other drivers but tsuchiya (in the s2000) has a class win at le mans. the rest of the of the best motoring regulars are all former or active pros in japan.
who did you notice not heel & toeing? didn't recognize the other drivers but tsuchiya (in the s2000) has a class win at le mans. the rest of the of the best motoring regulars are all former or active pros in japan.
I agree. Those drivers all have strong racing resumes.
Didn't know they were real pros. One thing is hard to understand than is why they were not pushing those cars more. I mean, I have seen plenty of Cayman S racing videos and this one looked oh so tame. I was expecting much more out of S2K or even NSX, but looked like only Boxter S guy was willing to maybe push the car a bit harder. The rest were more interested in gesturing.
But again, my impression could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time
__________________ '07 Porsche Cayman S: de-snorked... more mods to come. '05 Dodge Magnum RT: catback, high-flow cats, custom intake, projector headlights, SC FlashPaq... and on and on.
Blog: leanstartups.com
FWIW, here's some other, I take it, non-professional comparative comentary on the Cayman, in this case vis-a-vis a C6 Corvette http://wheeltalk.fancal.net/?p=851
These videos are fun to watch, but reflect far more about the ability (& motivation) of the drivers than the potential of the cars. I seriously doubt the lack of SC was a measureable "handicap." A slow shift, botched turn (of which there are many), blocked pass, differences in tires, etc. would account for much more.
I would agree......I'd bet the difference is purely drivers with the next factor being the actual output of the engine, mileage, tires, etc. I've seen many drivers post the same lap times with SC off as they do with it on. Lots of different factors at play here.
No PASM on Cayman and the Boxster S has PASM suspension, fair bit of blocking going on too.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
