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Thinking of trading my base for an S...tomorrow morning!
My Cayman is my first Porsche, and I have been pretty happy with it. But I do regret two things about it. It is not the S and it is the Tiptronic. I just bought it in May, and it has 7000 miles on it. I was at the dealer and they have a used 2007 S with only 4000 miles on it.
Meteor Grey Metallic/black interior
Preferred package plus
19" Carrera S wheels
Navigation
Bose
MSRP when they sold it 11 months ago was $70,100. They have offered it to me for $52,500. Of course I am a little upside down on my Cayman. In the end, they want $2000 out of pocket, and my payments are the same as now, only for an extra 6 months (purchase). Does it sound like an OK deal? Should I keep looking?
be sure to check with your dealer on the CPU readout over-revs...
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18"CSWheels/Clear Markers/Clear Bra/B&M SSK w/EVO Link/RemoteKey/CF Mirror Trim/ChaseCam Mount/Remus Racing Exhaust * ...she rides into town, knowing what they'll say, knowing they're around the corner... *
...a used 2007 S with only 4000 miles on it.
... Does it sound like an OK deal?
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19" Carrera S wheels
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Two things come to mind at the moment:
Some folks feel that the active shock absorbers option* is a really good thing to have on a car with the stiffer/shorter sidewalls of 19" tires
Will the dealer (Leith?) let you have a mechanic at an independent shop check out the car (especially for signs of heavy track/autocross use, collision or water damage)
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
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I run on 19s daily with no PASM. I love the ride. It feels "sporty" to me. Yes, the 18s are softer. You can always trade for 18s if you want them.
If the car looks like it has original tires on it...not brand new...then I wouldn't worry about track abuse. The shoulders would be scrubbed off. Brand new tires might be a red flag as they should not be in need of replacement this early.
If you like the car, buy it...but know that you can wait and find another one if you want something different.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
Thanks for the information everyone. I could take it to an independent mechanic to check, but it still has a lot of warranty left, so I am not too worried. I think what grrlsix said was a good idea, so I will definitely check that. I'll check the tires as well. I'm going back today for a second look to make sure it is what I want. I'll let you all know, and again, thanks!
I'll go along with trading. I bought my 07 Midnight Blue base Cayman almost exactly a year ago this month. I just placed an order with my dealer for a spec built 08 CS Carrera White. I'm looking forward to early next year when it arrives.
What is the trade-in cost differential? Dealers like to focus on monthly payments rather than the true cost of the deal. Forget the payment differences, and evaluate the trade and financing separately.
That said, w/o knowing more it sounds like an attractive deal as long as your payments aren't sky-high.
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'08 Honda Ridgeline RTL
'99 Miata 10th Anniversary Edition
'07 KTM Super Duke 990
'07 KTM 300 XC-W / '06 KTM 450 XC
I like the fact that the monthly payments are basically the same as I have now, and only 6 months longer. But, if I look at the cost aspect, here it is:
$58,900 in May for my base cayman
$70,100 for the new one had I bought it new in May
Difference is $11,200
Prices now
trading the old one for $42,000
paying for the new one $52,500
Difference is $10,500
6 months more in payments = $4800, plus $2000 out of pocket is another $6800
So, as long as no one points out any other factors I might have overlooked, buying now vs buying the S originally, it looks like I am out $6800. For having a car only 6 months, I think that kind of loss is not too bad.
How is the difference now $10,500, but the all-in financing differential $6800?
The $10,500 difference s/b less than $6800 since it doesn't include finance charges. You're either not comparing apples to apples, or missing something. Sounds like a good deal, but I'd bridge the gap between the $10500 and the $6800 to ensure you have a full understanding of the deal.
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Originally Posted by CaymanMS4RS
I like the fact that the monthly payments are basically the same as I have now, and only 6 months longer. But, if I look at the cost aspect, here it is:
$58,900 in May for my base cayman
$70,100 for the new one had I bought it new in May
Difference is $11,200
Prices now
trading the old one for $42,000
paying for the new one $52,500
Difference is $10,500
6 months more in payments = $4800, plus $2000 out of pocket is another $6800
So, as long as no one points out any other factors I might have overlooked, buying now vs buying the S originally, it looks like I am out $6800. For having a car only 6 months, I think that kind of loss is not too bad.
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'07 Guards Red Cayman S
'08 Honda Ridgeline RTL
'99 Miata 10th Anniversary Edition
'07 KTM Super Duke 990
'07 KTM 300 XC-W / '06 KTM 450 XC
Thinking of trading my base for an S...tomorrow morning!
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