doesn't a lot of the amount of available discount depend on factors like how the particular model is selling, how many are in any given dealer's inventory, how long the car you're considering has been on the lot, and how much the dealer wishes to improve his next-year's allocation by moving units?

if a car's been on the lot for 6-8 mos., aren't they going to be more likely to wish to move it? and likewise, if the dealer's anticipating a hot year next year b/c of the new 911, wouldn't their allocation amount/position improve if they sell more cars now? i always thought this stuff had something to do with it, but apparently it's just a factor of waiting until next february when the new caymans start showing up, is it?

Totally agree with you on this one.
They are still not budging but man does he sound sincere.

did you try going thru the "internet sales" guy at the dealership? if not, try that edmunds.com thing of "looking for quotes" at the end of a build-your-own; the internet guys i've dealt with at several dealerships are far more aggressive with getting to a low bottom line price than regular floor sales folk.

i don't think 15% is within reach yet, but i've gotten quotes in the 8-12% off msrp range at more than one dealer in various states, and that was two months ago already.

I think all these are definitely factors, but there's even more going on behind the scenes. For instance, what are the dealer's costs to keep the doors open - payments on their location perhaps, how's business doing in the service department, what's the pricing like at their competing dealers in the same area, etc. Most of these dealers have been doing this a long time, and have a history to look back to to determine how much can they make and still have a viable business - price the cars too high, no sales... price too low, you don't make enough money... my guess is you've reached the price where it all works for this particular dealer... as said before, it's still fairly early in the model year to expect dealers to be blowing '08s out the door at just above invoice... and we're hearing rumors that the MY '09s are not going to arrive until the Spring of '09 instead of this Fall as usual, and there's no dealer incentives from PCNA on the '08 cars. Many of the great deals you've read about here are for '07 cars that were left over from last year.

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I have gone thru both internet and floor sales, I Think both of them gave about the same amount.
Still thinking about whether I should just get the car and not worry too much about a few percentages.
If only I didn't wreck my car then wouldn't have to spend much time and effort trying to get a new one.

Wouldn't it be more rewarding to find the car with options you want more than a prized % discount?

I could not agree more, as my dad would say "...you are going to be dead along time, enjoy your life..." As I have stated before I got 12% off msrp, yeah, I guess I could have forced more but in the end the equipment / options where worth more to me. Good luck in your search and hope you can work out a deal that is right for you.

Hmm...my thoughts exactly...just haven't found the exact car that I am looking for so I have to make some compromises. This is why I am I trying to get a little more off.
To be honest, an extra percent or two really isn't that much but I am doing that for principle...kind of hard to explain.

Anyway, thanks...hopefully I find one soon. I am getting sick and tired of driving this beat up accord especially coming from my 335...pain....

I got about 10% off on mine at champion motors Porsche South Florida. Thought that was a fair deal.

My CS was right at 10% off and I didn't even have to work...talk to the internet sales person...oh my CS came from BoardWalk Porsche in Plano Texas.

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If I do get one, it will be from Boardwalk of Plano.
I already have a sales working with me...would feel a bit weird trying to get someone else.
10-11% was as low as he can go, and even the sale manager came out.
He calls me at least once again asking me what else he can do to sell me the car besides asking him to lower the price.
I have no idea...but I definitely don't need a bunch of key chains.

When you guys talk about 10 - 15% off MSRP..... what is the mark-up between the dealers cost and the MSRP?

At %15, off would the dealer still make any money? I was offered a new 2007 two months ago, for 15% off (I was in the right place, at the right time)... but wasn't the car I wanted, and I wasn't ready to buy on the spot...but it got me thinking?

Not sure but I think 15% is under invoice. The reason why they would sell it for that is because it's an 07 and sometimes they get some money from Porsche or they had the warranty card punched out.
Anyone feel free to correct me.