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Well I took the plunge and placed a deposit on a CS sport (Dec build) with the option to switch to first build on FL CS (spring 09 build). Now I have to study all the options and costs and weigh the differences between 08 and 09 to see which way to go. I have been planning a fully optioned car(fully optioned interior trim with all performance options) and then adding suspension upgrades and a likely x51 motor or it's equivelant DFI version. There is a lot to be said for all the free options that come with the sport run.
I have decided against PDK so that is one strike against the 09. Also 09 will see at least 5% price increase. A plus09 is DFI motor but if I am going to swap anyway? PCM/bluetooth upgrades can all be done after market maybe better and cheaper. Big ajustment for me is that I wanted GT Silver with Sea Blue/GT silver interior. Was not so keen on GT3 Orange/Black until I saw one today...Black interior with orange stitching...wow...Initial estimates place about 10K of free options in the CS sport, that could
help alot towards x51 swap. So it looks like a good 15-18K savings going the 08 sport verses 09 DFI. Plus the choice between the GT silver/sea Blue (very classy undestated but sporty) verses 'target on my back' GT3 Orange. Lots to think about...imput welcome
DFI
Direct Fuel Injection (DFI), is a new technology that Porsche states can cut fuel consumption by up to 15 percent, while increasing power by up to 13 percent. DFI cuts emissions by warming up the catalytic converter more quickly, and ensures a sharper throttle response. Better for your right foot - and the planet, then.
DFI allows much more precise measurement of fuel supply and injection at pressures up to 120 bar; it has numerous combustion modes, with different cycles for cold-starting, low-speed driving and performance driving.
As the name suggests, DFI injects fuel directly into the individual combustion chambers, instead of the intake manifold. The injector valves have an electromagnetic mechanism that controls each injection with astonishing precision, while a high-pressure pump provides the necessary pressure—up to 1,740 psi—to accompany the rapid fire of the fuel injection.
Precise geometry of the injector’s position and its spray pattern is a key factor in helping to improve power, torque and emissions of the engines. The specific placement of the fuel as it enters each chamber creates a swirl that improves the air/fuel mixture, and therefore the overall combustion process.
At engine speeds up to 3500 rpm, a double-injection process is used. In this mode, the required fuel volume is delivered in two successive injections per working stroke. The resulting benefits include faster catalyst warm-up and increased torque in the upper load range.
By forming the air/fuel mix directly in the combustion chamber, DFI contributes to engine cooling. As a result, it is possible to increase the compression ratio and with it the power and efficiency of the engine.
The direct injection process is continuously adjusted. The engine management system reads changes to throttle inputs and performance requirements and, as you drive, the air/fuel mix is monitored and adapted as required. Oxygen sensor circuits within the exhaust system provide accurate emissions control.
There is no way to know what the price increase on the '09 Caymans will be until PCNA announces it. The increase on the 997.2 is 2.8%. If PCNA follows past history, the Cayman markup will be less.
There is no way to know what the price increase on the '09 Caymans will be until PCNA announces it. The increase on the 997.2 is 2.8%. If PCNA follows past history, the Cayman markup will be less.
This is true for MSRP. The actual selling price has been considerably under MSRP. Will that continue?
I thought I would get more imput on this...anyway ran a bunch of numbers last night and the savings seem to be closer to 5-7k figuring a 3% price increase...with the Sport model there are a few free options I don't care about so I left them off...if I was keen on a black interior the savings would be more like 8k....note that this is on MSRP of 90-95k. My thinking is if I were lightly optioning the Sport version it would make more sense...even though the actual savings is the same the percentage savings is lower as the option list grows. Right now my inclination is to stick it out till the spring and get exactly what I want...hope to talk to FL this weekend about new engines versus the old and whether DFI 3.8 engine can be retro fitted to an 08 car...also with late Dec delivery I wouldn't be driving an 08 much till the spring anyway
am I thinking straight here? What would you do?
ps. yeah we will not know the actual price increase for a while which is a problem. I expect a bigger discount on the Sport due to incentives to move the older version. I would expect demand to be higher on the DFI cars so discounts will be less.
DFI
Direct Fuel Injection (DFI), is a new technology that Porsche states can cut fuel consumption by up to 15 percent, while increasing power by up to 13 percent. DFI cuts emissions by warming up the catalytic converter more quickly, and ensures a sharper throttle response. Better for your right foot - and the planet, then.
DFI allows much more precise measurement of fuel supply and injection at pressures up to 120 bar; it has numerous combustion modes, with different cycles for cold-starting, low-speed driving and performance driving.
As the name suggests, DFI injects fuel directly into the individual combustion chambers, instead of the intake manifold. The injector valves have an electromagnetic mechanism that controls each injection with astonishing precision, while a high-pressure pump provides the necessary pressure—up to 1,740 psi—to accompany the rapid fire of the fuel injection.
Precise geometry of the injector’s position and its spray pattern is a key factor in helping to improve power, torque and emissions of the engines. The specific placement of the fuel as it enters each chamber creates a swirl that improves the air/fuel mixture, and therefore the overall combustion process.
At engine speeds up to 3500 rpm, a double-injection process is used. In this mode, the required fuel volume is delivered in two successive injections per working stroke. The resulting benefits include faster catalyst warm-up and increased torque in the upper load range.
By forming the air/fuel mix directly in the combustion chamber, DFI contributes to engine cooling. As a result, it is possible to increase the compression ratio and with it the power and efficiency of the engine.
The direct injection process is continuously adjusted. The engine management system reads changes to throttle inputs and performance requirements and, as you drive, the air/fuel mix is monitored and adapted as required. Oxygen sensor circuits within the exhaust system provide accurate emissions control.
I would guess that the swap of a 3.8 DFI engine into a car/ECU built for a 3.4 non DFI enging might be a problem. Check this out carefully and understand that no one will really know the answer with certainty until they have a 3.8 DFI in hand.
DFI
Direct Fuel Injection (DFI), is a new technology that Porsche states can cut fuel consumption by up to 15 percent, while increasing power by up to 13 percent. DFI cuts emissions by warming up the catalytic converter more quickly, and ensures a sharper throttle response. Better for your right foot - and the planet, then.
DFI allows much more precise measurement of fuel supply and injection at pressures up to 120 bar; it has numerous combustion modes, with different cycles for cold-starting, low-speed driving and performance driving.
As the name suggests, DFI injects fuel directly into the individual combustion chambers, instead of the intake manifold. The injector valves have an electromagnetic mechanism that controls each injection with astonishing precision, while a high-pressure pump provides the necessary pressure—up to 1,740 psi—to accompany the rapid fire of the fuel injection.
Precise geometry of the injector’s position and its spray pattern is a key factor in helping to improve power, torque and emissions of the engines. The specific placement of the fuel as it enters each chamber creates a swirl that improves the air/fuel mixture, and therefore the overall combustion process.
At engine speeds up to 3500 rpm, a double-injection process is used. In this mode, the required fuel volume is delivered in two successive injections per working stroke. The resulting benefits include faster catalyst warm-up and increased torque in the upper load range.
By forming the air/fuel mix directly in the combustion chamber, DFI contributes to engine cooling. As a result, it is possible to increase the compression ratio and with it the power and efficiency of the engine.
The direct injection process is continuously adjusted. The engine management system reads changes to throttle inputs and performance requirements and, as you drive, the air/fuel mix is monitored and adapted as required. Oxygen sensor circuits within the exhaust system provide accurate emissions control.