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I am just about ready to buy a new 2007 CS. I have two questions and hoping that the folks in the forums can help me:
1. The one I am looking at has 19" Turbo Wheels - and it does have PASM. I have test drove on 19" Carrera's at local dealer and these were just about as far as I want to go in terms of road noise and ride stiffness. I live in Seattle and the roads can be rough and it does get cold sometimes. I am concerned particularly in tramlining on these uneven roads with such wide tires. So my question to the others Cayman users, do you think that the Turbos will be significantly worse. Could I perhaps change out the rear stock turbo 305/30s with 295/30s (since both have 11/J 19 rims?) if I do not like it.
2. What concerns should I have about a "new" 2007 model; at this point are most of these "demos? What milage would you consider to be new; is 200 miles OK if I get full starting warranty...and should I try for more than a 10% discount as these miles get higher on a "new" 2007 - are there other issues to consider?
thanks so much for any help with this purchase!!
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
The turbo wheel that comes as a Cayman option is NOT 11 inches wide - it is 9.5 - and has proportionally narrower tires - this is a common typo in Porsche's literature (including a sticker sheet on the cars). The only way to get 11 inch turbo wheels is to get them on secondary market.
There should be no issues with turbo wheels vs. any other 19 inch optional wheel - you can find a lot of opinions on how those match (or not) with PASM.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
I love the turbo wheels. I don't know the seattle market but I think you could do a little better than 10%. Dealers in GA offered 12% right off the bat on 2007s at the end of the year last year. You could also negotiate for small things like clear side marker lights, extra key, porsche shirts or hat... Most dealers will throw these in to help close the deal. Good Luck!!!!!
PS also if it is a demo - check if and when the warranty was started. Sometimes the dealers activate the warranty to qualify for various programs. So you might buy the car in march 2008 only to find the warranty started say in Nov 2007.
Last edited by shellshocked; 03-09-2008 at 03:54 PM.
The turbo wheel that comes as a Cayman option is NOT 11 inches wide - it is 9.5 - and has proportionally narrower tires - this is a common typo in Porsche's literature (including a sticker sheet on the cars). The only way to get 11 inch turbo wheels is to get them on secondary market.
There should be no issues with turbo wheels vs. any other 19 inch optional wheel - you can find a lot of opinions on how those match (or not) with PASM.
exactly, they look like turbo wheels, but they are not the turbo wheels, they come with 265/35 rear and 235/35 front.
Tramlining is not really a problem, it does happen sometimes, but not annoyingly, also the ride withOUT PASM is tolerable, a bit harsh, but not by much, so I'm guessing with PASM it would be much better. Plus, 19" look much better than 18"s in my opinion!
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PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
Could I perhaps change out the rear stock turbo 305/30s with 295/30s (since both have 11/J 19 rims?) if I do not like it.
As others have told you the wheel sizes are wrong, so is the tire width. The rears are 265, not 305. 305s come on the C4S, GT3, etc. 295s come on the C2, C2S.
I myself am in the market for some Cayman turbo wheels................ I've considered buying some of the 11'' widebody ones that go on ebay for under $2,000 a set; but I don't want more understeer. So if anyone reading this thread is looking to sell (fat chance...), please pm me.
The turbo wheel that comes as a Cayman option is NOT 11 inches wide - it is 9.5 - and has proportionally narrower tires - this is a common typo in Porsche's literature (including a sticker sheet on the cars). The only way to get 11 inch turbo wheels is to get them on secondary market.
There should be no issues with turbo wheels vs. any other 19 inch optional wheel - you can find a lot of opinions on how those match (or not) with PASM.
Good info here, I'm looking at buying a Cayman equipped with these wheels and its good to know I won't have to worry about the fit/spacers etc. I feel more comfortable knowing the turbo wheels are designed from the start to fit with the car.
Good info here, I'm looking at buying a Cayman equipped with these wheels and its good to know I won't have to worry about the fit/spacers etc. I feel more comfortable knowing the turbo wheels are designed from the start to fit with the car.
The 11" rear turbo wheel will not fit without out spacers, you will have contact on the inside, these are designed for the carrera. The cayman rear wheels are 9.5" wide on a factory 19" wheels, turbo and other models.
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