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Old 02-20-2007, 01:36 AM
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Acryllic Paint experience anyone?

Anyone used Acryllic Paint to paint their stock wheels? I was told this would "work fine" by a Wheel and Tire "expert".

Is it durable? As good as Powdercoating?? Same price???






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Old 02-20-2007, 02:15 AM
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No paint will hold up like powder coating. That stuff is tough....
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:10 AM
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No paint will hold up like powder coating. That stuff is tough....
My thoughts exactly Gator.
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Still, powder coating add's weight to each wheel and most places use paint, heck even Porsche uses wheel paint if you get the option. I think that modern offerings in wheel paint are very durable to heat and chips. - Suneet
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The stock wheels are painted and clear-coated, just like the body of your car. So if you go that route, you already know the durability issues - just look at your present wheels.

I honestly can't see where powder-coating will add an appreciable amount of weight - it's powdered paint sprayed on the metal surface through an opposite electrical charge so it covers everything thoroughly, then it's melted into a liquid at high temperature. How much weight can that add over painting and clear-coating, an ounce or two, if that? Considering the car weighs 2900 pounds, that's not a big difference, even though it is unsprung weight.

Biggest problem with powder-coating I see is color match - not all colors are available in powder-coating material.

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Thanks for all the thoughts guys.

I have always been set on powdercoating my Sport Designs black. I came across this advice from someone to use acryllic paint, so I thought I would get your guys expert opinions on it first.

I'm still going powdercoating...just having some trouble finding a reputable place in the Chicago area. I don't want to send my wheels across to CA unless I have to!
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I read that powdercoating adds about 2-3 lbs per wheel when I was researching it, but you're right that's not much.

The thing with powdercoating is that I'm pretty sure it's a flat black finish... I'd prefer a glossy finish to match the paint of the car. They do powdercoated chrome now though, so maybe I'm wrong about this.

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im pretty sure powder coating can be glossy aswell with a few layers of clear coat? anyone?
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I read that powdercoating adds about 2-3 lbs per wheel when I was researching it, but you're right that's not much.
2-3 pounds? per wheel? How can that be? Paint, enough to cover a whole wheel, even in powder form doesn't weigh that much. I've had lots of things powder coated and they never weighed any different. It's not a super thick coating, it's just baked on for more durability.

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Old 02-21-2007, 05:31 AM
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Brad, I'll take your word for it, I got that statement from a VW forum from a person who offered powdercoating services to people in that community. I don't have personal experience with it. I agree it's much more durable than paint.

Do you know if you can have a glossy powdercoat finish? - Suneet
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im pretty sure powder coating can be glossy aswell with a few layers of clear coat? anyone?
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Here I am,

Let me speak from experience. . . .

For years I've worked with wheels and I can speak from first hand knowledge, take it as you may.

First off there are lots of powder coaters out there, doesn't mean they apply the electric charged powder correctly. Some don't pre-heat, some don't have a quality check before the baking process (which is an other down-fall). Most of the time when an area is not covered the first time it is recharged and coated and ran again. Two things are wrong here, too much heat again and too much applied materials.

When we bake our paint on wheels we bake it for 25 minutes at around 275 degrees. Powder Coating can heat up to 500 degrees which pretty much puts the metal at a "free-form" state. This will allow the metal to deform during this process expecially those which are thin.

PC is a big hype brought on by someone who couldn't stop and it just went from there. A good friend of mine who has been in the sand blasting business agrees with me 100%, he has been in business for over 30 years.

Still don't believe?

Take a PC wheel and hit it with a ball-pin hammer, you'll get a nice chip.
Take a painted wheel and do the same and you'll get a scratch.

You pick,

Hope this helps,

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Here I am,

Let me speak from experience. . . .

For years I've worked with wheels and I can speak from first hand knowledge, take it as you may.

First off there are lots of powder coaters out there, doesn't mean they apply the electric charged powder correctly. Some don't pre-heat, some don't have a quality check before the baking process (which is an other down-fall). Most of the time when an area is not covered the first time it is recharged and coated and ran again. Two things are wrong here, too much heat again and too much applied materials.

When we bake our paint on wheels we bake it for 25 minutes at around 275 degrees. Powder Coating can heat up to 500 degrees which pretty much puts the metal at a "free-form" state. This will allow the metal to deform during this process expecially those which are thin.

PC is a big hype brought on by someone who couldn't stop and it just went from there. A good friend of mine who has been in the sand blasting business agrees with me 100%, he has been in business for over 30 years.

Still don't believe?

Take a PC wheel and hit it with a ball-pin hammer, you'll get a nice chip.
Take a painted wheel and do the same and you'll get a scratch.

You pick,

Hope this helps,

-Eli

I can't say what company I'm from due to site rules but I will say we deal with WHEELS on a daily basis.
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Thx for the info. How much would it cost me to paint each wheel - 19" Sport Designs - in black?