Hey Unregistered it seems that you haven't posted a message in our forums yet. Please join in on the fun and post a message! Click on Forum, then click the name of the appropriate forum such as "Cayman Chat" and then click the New Thread icon (looks like a Cayman door and side grill). Enter your message in the message editor and press submit and you are on your way!
Cayman UKDiscussion for members in the UK, local events, etc.
Your Donation Will Be Used To Pay For our ever increasing bandwidth costs, our hosting Service, domain registration, software licensing fees, maintenance costs and product evaluations Only!
Please enter your donation amount above, and then click on the donate button below.
UK cars handle better than US spec cars - fact or fiction
During a conversation with a service chap in my local main steeler I was told that UK Porsche's have lower (10mm) and stiffer suspension set up than the North American spec.
Had noticed a couple of posts from that side of the pond referring to body roll during overtaking, something I certainly had not noticed, so, is this fact or fiction....?
Not entirely sure that its down to the ride hight, but i know that the options list are all the same.
However, US cars do have a larger fuel tank than ROW, which means less leg room our RHD footwells and may translate to better handling, but i suspect that its a rather tall stretch on the idea.
Pop
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
I've only noticed body roll in pictures of my car taken while I autocrossed- and there is plenty in that scenario- so I beefed my sway bars up
__________________
996 GT3 lower control arms at all corners, 997 GT3 front sway bar
H&R rear sway bar, Tarett rear toe links
Quaife TBD
DMC harness bar/G-force harness
During a conversation with a service chap in my local main steeler I was told that UK Porsche's have lower (10mm) and stiffer suspension set up than the North American spec.
Had noticed a couple of posts from that side of the pond referring to body roll during overtaking, something I certainly had not noticed, so, is this fact or fiction....?
Think your Service To$$er at the Stealers is Talking Bo££ocks........
I have just looked at the Suspension parts listings: US/UK/Germany and Main Coil Springs and Sway Bars are exactly the same part number (there are differences between Cayman and Cayman S)
Suspension Identical .............
However ours (UK) do handle better on the track, undoubtedly........
Most tracks are Clockwise, so predominantly RH Turns. We sit on the Right of the car to drive, so the weight (Substantial in my case) is on the inside of most bends, stabilising the car and keeping it flat on RH Bends............ Also we see the Apexes better on our right, without having to look across an expanse of Bonnet.
Hate to imagine what mischief I could do in a LH Drive Car...................
Lucky we are British.......! Perhaps that is why we have to pay 50% more for our Caymans.........?
__________________
Cheers Karel To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Think your Service To$$er at the Stealers is Talking Bo££ocks........
I have just looked at the Suspension parts listings: US/UK/Germany and Main Coil Springs and Sway Bars are exactly the same part number (there are differences between Cayman and Cayman S)
Suspension Identical .............
However ours (UK) do handle better on the track, undoubtedly........
Most tracks are Clockwise, so predominantly RH Turns. We sit on the Right of the car to drive, so the weight (Substantial in my case) is on the inside of most bends, stabilizing the car and keeping it flat on RH Bends............ Also we see the Apexes better on our right, without having to look across an expanse of Bonnet.
Hate to imagine what mischief I could do in a LH Drive Car...................
Lucky we are British.......! Perhaps that is why we have to pay 50% more for our Caymans.........?
Dam, you have noticed the Porsche cunning plan to make out the car is different, when actually it is just down to the weight of the driver being on the inside line.
Next thing you know Porsche will be discounting their UK (London) cars by 25 pounds per day to compensate their owners for 'Red Kens' (I mean the Mayor of London) extra tax on PCars.
Maybe the handling is better due to the UK drivers being way superior (Now that should bring a few comments (Oh yes I am unbiased of course, and a 'Brit')
__________________
Current Cars:
2008 Orange - Limited Edition Boxster S
2004 Atlas Grey - Boxster S
Suspensions are identical and my favorite track is run counter-clockwise so I am on the inside line. PASM cars are 10mm lower than non-PASM cars, that is the only difference.
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. | To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
K-Man S To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Don't know about the Cayman, but the Boxsters definately had a different suspension for US market. People special ordered the bits and pieces to get a lower rest of the world (ROW) set up.
Suspensions are identical and my favorite track is run counter-clockwise so I am on the inside line. PASM cars are 10mm lower than non-PASM cars, that is the only difference.
So Ken.......... I was totally correct..........
Thanks for your support (I bring up a lot of tosh in other threads, just to provoke witty banter), mostly I try to please and educate.
Strange how weight distribution and driver position in the car can make so much difference.
So I am sure you will agree that British Drivers are superior because on clockwise tracks (the majority) we sit on the correct side of the car.......?
__________________
Cheers Karel To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Considering that no one in the UK has ever driven on a dry track, I am not sure how you would be able to tell the difference.
My service adviser said their is no such thing as a RHD car. They are supposed to all be LHD, but sometimes a drunken Finn screws up. They call them OOPS-K spec cars. Much like a puppy born with only three legs. They can still run, of course. But only clockwise.
__________________
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Don't know about the Cayman, but the Boxsters definately had a different suspension for US market. People special ordered the bits and pieces to get a lower rest of the world (ROW) set up.
This may have been true for the 986, but for the 987 the parts are identical.
Considering that no one in the UK has ever driven on a dry track, I am not sure how you would be able to tell the difference.
My service adviser said their is no such thing as a RHD car. They are supposed to all be LHD, but sometimes a drunken Finn screws up. They call them OOPS-K spec cars. Much like a puppy born with only three legs. They can still run, of course. But only clockwise.
Not even my warped mind could have come up with that sort of explanation....
By the way, do not think about getting drunk in Finland - it will cost you half a month's salary............. Just for one evenings entertainment.........?
Now we know Ken's weakness............. We will take him on (and beat him) on a clockwise track.....................
__________________
Cheers Karel To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.