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Old 12-16-2005, 05:18 PM
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Dealer talking rubbish? (leather and PASM)



Salesman at my OPC said today:


1. the 'partial leather' means you only get leather on the seats, not on the rest of the cabin (eg. dash etc). Now, to me, the car they had in the showroom which had 'partial leather'didn't look like leather to me, but more some sort of fake-leather stuff. If it was 'leather', it wasn't very good quality!!


2. 'if you get PASM, the non-sport setting is the same as the suspension if you DON'T get PASM'. Questioned him on this, and he was adamant this was correct. I thought that if you don't spec PASM, then you get a ride that is midway between the 2 PASM settings?? Who's right?


On the subject of leather, am I right in thinking that if I want 'proper' leather, I have to get the whole inside kitted out (by that I mean dash etc)? I want sports seats with leather, but not bothered about the dash etc, but to get this I THINK I have to choose sports seats £487 and leather interior £1150??


Now, tell me if I'm mad....I really want red leather with my Seal, so was thinking (just thinking out loud here) of getting the non-leather sports seats and getting them re-trimmed in red - lots of folk on other UK car forums have had theirs done very professionally, and I'm kinda tempted. Am I mad though, wanting to remove the seats of a brand new £50k for some leather? And I'm guessing I'll be crucified at trade-in? OK, probably talking myself out of it now, but just wanted some thoughts! Thanks all.
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Old 12-16-2005, 05:30 PM
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I can't answer the specifics on partial leather since that's a UK thing. If that is the same thing as the standard interior in the US then there is no leather on dash, doors, etc. Seat surfaces depend upon what kind of seats you get.


Your sales guy is WRONG about PASM. See the guide book here that shows the suspension settings for PASM and non-PASM and how they overlap. Give the sales guy the document, print out that page, whatever, he's simply wrong.
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I've been around this and the subject was resolved on the launch night as all the UK launch cars were part leather and sports seats. What this means is leather seats, leather door inserts but the rest is regular placcy. Full leather gets you leather door caps (the first thing that'll get scuffed) and leather dashboard ... whoopee !

Save £1150 and just get the sport seats ... is my advice.
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Partial leather in UK definitely means Real leather on the seats. I had a silver grey BMW M3 with red leather. Beautiful combination. Bungle, you have good taste. The sports seats are £400 or so more in the UK as you delete the standard leather seats first than add the leather sports seats.
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