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I've got a Cayman S on order for an intentionally deferred summer delivery, subject to final decisions on color & a couple of good long test drives. Maybe even a few track laps. Why the delay , because I'm uncertain & having been swayed by all the positive press, I need actual Cayman seat time to pull the trigger.
I've finally got my 993 exactly the way I want it: G50/21 Euro close ratio gearbox, LSD, LWF, RS clutch, lowered Euro M030 w/HD Bilsteins suspension, blah, blah, blah. I love just about everythiong about it. While it may represent the pinnacle of air-cooled NA 911s, it's hardly perfect & yes, there have been very desireable technological advances in the past 10 years.
I would never say this in front of my adored 993, but its AC sucks (unless compared to an earlier 911), it has or will likely develop the usual 993 creaks & groans & other minor annoyances, e.g., noisy front sway bar bushings, sticking/noisy clutch slave cylinder, leaking lower valve cover gaskets, periodic spoiler wall tearing, etc. However, nothing major has broken, ... yet. Most such flaws are excused in this 'last of the real 911s' & are characterized as quaint idiosyncrasies. BTW, in a 99x, 98x or C7S, lesser problems cause many pre '99 911 owners to snicker & blame Japanese influenced mass production problems. Those same folks are predictable Cayman bashers.
So, I'm torn. A new car warranty, real AC, a tight structure & some of that modern stuff like head/thorax/side airbags, PASM & PSM are attractive to me. I hope a drive will turn me on ... or off.
As many have observed, I too wish the Cayman S had a bit more, but in a way, I'd maybe prefer if it had a whole bunch less, so my decision would be easier.
Hope everyone had a happy new year and welcome to the year of the Cayman.
Edited by - lizardS on 01/01/2006 11:25:04 PM
PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM
LSD - Limited Slip Differential
A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
To see the installation of a LSD style unit Click Here -> Article Forthcoming Stay Tuned
PSM - Porsche Stability Management
While it can’t overcome the laws of physics, the revolutionary Porsche Stability Management (PSM) system does lend an added degree of balance and control to the Cayman’s mid-engine driving dynamics, inspiring surefooted confidence in corners and extreme situations.
A standard feature on the Cayman and Cayman S, PSM continuously monitors steering input, road speed, yaw velocity and lateral acceleration to calculate the actual direction of travel. If the car begins to steer off line, PSM instantly intervenes with precision brake inputs on individual wheels to help bring the car back onto the driver’s intended path.
If braking alone isn’t enough to correct the vehicle’s cornering line, PSM then calls on the Cayman’s engine management system, adjusting engine output as needed to help stabilize handling. PSM can also compensate in an instant for mid-corner changes in load resulting from deceleration or braking. When Sport mode is selected with the optional Sport Chrono Package, PSM’s threshold for intervention is raised, allowing for greater driver involvement. If you prefer driving without automatic PSM assistance, the system can be set to standby at any time. In this case, it will only intervene under heavy braking, where both front wheels exceed the ABS threshold.
For all of its technical ability, PSM goes virtually unnoticed in everyday driving situations, preserving the Cayman’s natural agility.
LOL, not an easy one perhaps. You are right a run in the Cayman might give you the answers, but a 993 with those options, especially if it is in good shape, is becoming tougher and tougher to come by.
Actually, I think you really need to decide if that 993 is for you. It seems like it is a daily driver. If you will be putting medium to high miles on it, it will likely give you more problems that will cut into its joy. If it is a weekend, occasional track/concours, etc. type car for you; I'd say keep it frankly. But for a daily driver, a new car's comfort, peace of mind, technical updates and so forth will most likely weigh in to swing you off the 993.
The 993 is a wonderful car, even though it is a little short n its wheel base for me [img]/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/MWPX/wink_smile.gif[/img], but the interior desing, the seats, fading colors, etc.; I know I could not drive it on a daily basis. I think it all depends on how you want to live with either one (some inappropriate anologies come to mind that I won't put them into writing [img]/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/MWPX/embaressed_smile.gif[/img])
One thing also to keep in mind: the 993 prices, especially 1996 and 98, are coming down quite fast. I suspect if the Cayman is perceived well, it will further speed up the decline in the prices.
Thanks for your thoughts FT. My 993 is a daily driver - she's got her winter wheels/tires on now. Just turned 56k miles & I only drive about 5k per year so there's plenty of hopefully trouble free years left. Garaged at home & office, no nicks, dents, dings, or stories. Low, rumbling idle & just orgasmic sounds when the varioram kicks in.
BTW, I too thought of several 'I can't post that' analogies. Great (or is it crass) minds ... LOL.
hey lizardS, that is a gorgeous 993 ya got. I'm faced with a similar situation, whether or not to part company with my 89 911 Speedster (w/ 25K miles). I've decided to hold onto her and lease a new Cayman for 4 years. My thinking is that in four years, the develoment of the Cayman (or 911) might include a model I'd like to spec and own for a long, long time. I've never owned a modern Porsche so I'm going for the 4 year test drive to see if I like it better than the raw, visceral power of the older 911's. If I knew I could easily find another great 89 911 or a 97 993, I'd probably sell her to ease the financial burden . . . however they just don't make cars like that anymore and I can see kicking myself whenever I come upon that classic 911 silouhette. The Cayman however, is a perfect complement to my ragtop and yes, I will most definitely enjoy the Cayman's air conditioned comfort.
FWIW I think waiting to see how the Cayman drives and suits you is absolutely the way to go. You've got a real nice 993 and they are getting harder to come by in good condition with low milage. None of the post 993 Porsches (including the "911") will feel the same as the 993. Despite the numerous changes, the 993 seating, instrument cluster, doors, window frames, etc. connects it to all the other 911s that went before it. You can sit in a 72 S and a 98 C2S with a high degree of familiarity. Like the song says, something's lost and something's gained. Since you really can't replace your particular 993 you better make sure you gain more than you lose.
Keep the 993 and buy the Cayman S, seems like a win-win to me. Of course you could start modifying your Cayman S to make you forget all about the 993...
I have always regretted at some point every Porsche that I've sold. If possible keep it as a toy and get the Cayman as a daily driver. One thing to consider is that there will always be a Cayman available but this car will never be available again.
Might be off topic, but how much did it cost you to install the LSD on your 993? This is definitely something I want to look into for the Cayman S.
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I've finally got my 993 exactly the way I want it: G50/21 Euro close ratio gearbox, LSD, LWF, RS clutch, lowered Euro M030 w/HD Bilsteins suspension, blah, blah, blah..
Edited by - lizardS on 01/01/2006 11:25:04 PM
LSD - Limited Slip Differential
A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
To see the installation of a LSD style unit Click Here -> Article Forthcoming Stay Tuned
lizard, I don't have enough money to have this problem with cars, but I've run into this problem many times with motorcycles. If you have enough money and space, no reason to get rid of anything! (Jay Leno). So it really depends on what's motivating you to sell. But anyway, I've got a couple bikes with sentimental value and those have to stay.Like the old lamp I've had since childhood. Seems like with all the stuff and effort you've put intoyour car you've got some of that. If so, don't sell (it looks really good by the way).Otherwise, it's just old and can't competewith new technology. Out with the old, in with the new- they're just things.
That is indeed a pretty perfect 993... and beautiful black, too. I agree with all of what's been written above, so here's my $.02 on some other things - I was a big early 911 person, have had 5 up to this time, three of the old style. But, once you spend some time in one of the new cars, you'll marvel at how th
